Digit group separator in pivot table - what should the default value be?

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

image

regards,

Lars

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Lars Helge Øverland

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I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options

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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

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To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.

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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Prosper BT ptb3000@gmail.com wrote:

I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

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Supporting Jim’s suggestion on a system/implementation setting to configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility of overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default value for this system setting should be…

Ola

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On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace jim@dhis2.org wrote:

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Prosper BT ptb3000@gmail.com wrote:

I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Digit_grouping

seems to support Jim’s suggestion of space as default.

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On 3 May 2016 at 21:32, Ola Hodne Titlestad olati@ifi.uio.no wrote:

Supporting Jim’s suggestion on a system/implementation setting to configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility of overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default value for this system setting should be…

Ola



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On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace jim@dhis2.org wrote:

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.


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I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

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Hi all,

I agree with Jim make the default configurable across the instance.

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Subject: Re: [Dhis2-devs] [Dhis2-users] Digit group separator in pivot table - what should the default value be?

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Prosper BT ptb3000@gmail.com wrote:

I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

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regards,

Lars

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Supporting Jim and Ola on implementation wide settings to configure a default system-wide separator with provision to override for each pivot table. For Bangladesh the default separator is ‘Comma’.

Regards

Hannan

HISP Bangladesh

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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad olati@ifi.uio.no wrote:

Supporting Jim’s suggestion on a system/implementation setting to configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility of overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default value for this system setting should be…

Ola



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On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace jim@dhis2.org wrote:

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.


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I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

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Supporting Jim’s suggestion. For Madagascar, the default separator is ‘space’.

Best regards,

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2016-05-04 8:44 GMT+03:00 Hannan Khan hannank@gmail.com:

Supporting Jim and Ola on implementation wide settings to configure a default system-wide separator with provision to override for each pivot table. For Bangladesh the default separator is ‘Comma’.

Regards

Hannan

HISP Bangladesh


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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad olati@ifi.uio.no wrote:

Supporting Jim’s suggestion on a system/implementation setting to configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility of overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default value for this system setting should be…

Ola



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On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace jim@dhis2.org wrote:

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Prosper BT ptb3000@gmail.com wrote:

I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

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In Vietnam it’s also comma, so a system wide solution would be good (not for output only, but only for input would be good… if possible)

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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:56 PM, ramaso hasina hasina.ramaso@gmail.com wrote:

Supporting Jim’s suggestion. For Madagascar, the default separator is ‘space’.

Best regards,


Hasinarivelo RAMASOMANANA

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2016-05-04 8:44 GMT+03:00 Hannan Khan hannank@gmail.com:

Supporting Jim and Ola on implementation wide settings to configure a default system-wide separator with provision to override for each pivot table. For Bangladesh the default separator is ‘Comma’.

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HISP Bangladesh


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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad olati@ifi.uio.no wrote:

Supporting Jim’s suggestion on a system/implementation setting to configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility of overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default value for this system setting should be…

Ola



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On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace jim@dhis2.org wrote:

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.


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I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

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Good point: actually it's not only the digit group for pivot table, but rather
[digit group, decimal point, default number of decimals] for any [input, output,
import and export] that should be defined in the systems settings.

But I fear that the implications on the coding will be much bigger than what
Lars originally intended :slight_smile:

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Morten Olav Hansen <morten@dhis2.org> hat am 4. Mai 2016 um 09:25 geschrieben:

In Vietnam it's also comma, so a system wide solution would be good (not
for output only, but only for input would be good.. if possible)

--
Morten Olav Hansen
Senior Engineer, DHIS 2
University of Oslo
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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 12:56 PM, ramaso hasina <hasina.ramaso@gmail.com> > wrote:

> Supporting Jim's suggestion. For Madagascar, the default separator is
> 'space'.
>
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> 2016-05-04 8:44 GMT+03:00 Hannan Khan <hannank@gmail.com>:
>
>> Supporting Jim and Ola on implementation wide settings to configure a
>> default system-wide separator with provision to override for each pivot
>> table. For Bangladesh the default separator is 'Comma'.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Hannan
>> HISP Bangladesh
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Ola Hodne Titlestad <olati@ifi.uio.no> > >> wrote:
>>
>>> Supporting Jim's suggestion on a system/implementation setting to
>>> configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility
>>> of
>>> overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display
>>> options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default
>>> value for this system setting should be....
>>>
>>> Ola
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>>>
>>> On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace <jim@dhis2.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> To me the most important way to address this is to allow an
>>>> implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the
>>>> "correct" separator according to international norms, and is even making
>>>> inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I
>>>> think the space is probably the best "factory" default for DHIS 2, so
>>>> that
>>>> large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow
>>>> international and emerging standards.
>>>>
>>>> However, an implementation should be able to override this with an
>>>> implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for
>>>> that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to
>>>> Excel
>>>> is a concern.
>>>>
>>>> Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot
>>>> table is not very user-friendly.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Prosper BT <ptb3000@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what
>>>>> they want in options
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland <lars@dhis2.org> > >>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value
>>>>>> should be for the "digit group separator" in the pivot table app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So lets decide with a poll.. Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split
>>>>>> up, e.g.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1 432
>>>>>> 1,432
>>>>>> 1432
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 1]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lars
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> University of Oslo
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Hi all,

many thanks for all the feedback. Will make this configurable per system
then given the all the various opinions.

Another point of clarification: It seems that space is a preferred
separator in the Web based pivot table. However, when downloading to Excel,
it seems space is useless as it makes Excel interpret the cell as text, not
numbers.

So as a short term solution (which could be back-ported) could be that when
downloading to Excel, the system could fall back to no separator when space
is selected as separator. This because space never seems useful for Excel
spreadsheets.

Would that work?

regards,

Lars

I *think* we discuss the space separator business purely related to
display. So when exporting to excel, or any other case where the
number is expected to be consumed as a number (including storage in
the database), exported via api in json/xml datavalueset etc there
should be no spaces, commas etc. Confusion on this would be a recipe
for disaster.

Everyone seems to agree that how numbers display should be
configurable. Though I thought the question was more what would be
the default appearance in the absence of any configuration. In which
case there are only two approaches: (i) pick something, in which case
space seems to be the most standard default, or (ii) infer something
based on the locale.

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On 4 May 2016 at 09:56, Lars Helge Øverland <lars@dhis2.org> wrote:

Hi all,

many thanks for all the feedback. Will make this configurable per system
then given the all the various opinions.

Another point of clarification: It seems that space is a preferred separator
in the Web based pivot table. However, when downloading to Excel, it seems
space is useless as it makes Excel interpret the cell as text, not numbers.

So as a short term solution (which could be back-ported) could be that when
downloading to Excel, the system could fall back to no separator when space
is selected as separator. This because space never seems useful for Excel
spreadsheets.

Would that work?

regards,

Lars

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Hi there,

many thanks for all the feedback and the votes.

The feedback clearly tells that there are multiple needs / views out there, and that having this configurable per system is desired. So we will turn this into a system setting for 2.24.

Issues:

https://github.com/dhis2/settings-app/issues/62

https://github.com/dhis2/dhis2-pivot/issues/5

Thanks again for the feedback.

regards,

Lars

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On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolliffe@gmail.com wrote:

I think we discuss the space separator business purely related to

display. So when exporting to excel, or any other case where the

number is expected to be consumed as a number (including storage in

the database), exported via api in json/xml datavalueset etc there

should be no spaces, commas etc. Confusion on this would be a recipe

for disaster.

Everyone seems to agree that how numbers display should be

configurable. Though I thought the question was more what would be

the default appearance in the absence of any configuration. In which

case there are only two approaches: (i) pick something, in which case

space seems to be the most standard default, or (ii) infer something

based on the locale.

On 4 May 2016 at 09:56, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi all,

many thanks for all the feedback. Will make this configurable per system

then given the all the various opinions.

Another point of clarification: It seems that space is a preferred separator

in the Web based pivot table. However, when downloading to Excel, it seems

space is useless as it makes Excel interpret the cell as text, not numbers.

So as a short term solution (which could be back-ported) could be that when

downloading to Excel, the system could fall back to no separator when space

is selected as separator. This because space never seems useful for Excel

spreadsheets.

Would that work?

regards,

Lars


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