Dear all
Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt (). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language which uses all resources except the months? Best regards David
Hi David,
I think that would be a viable way to do it, though please let me copy this to our EMRO colleagues in Cairo, Ahmed Afify and Wael Iskandar, who have been working on the Arabic translations. Jason is also likely to have an opinion, I think.
Regards,
Knut
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Dear all
Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language *Arabic (Egypt)* which uses all *Arabic* resources except the months? Best regards David
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Hi David,
We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface.
We maintain a translation site here (http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code.
If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Dear all
Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language *Arabic (Egypt)* which uses all *Arabic* resources except the months? Best regards David
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I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding
back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest
approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the
translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the
similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely
on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the
Egyptian version?
On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David,
We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would
need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the
user interface.We maintain a translation site here
(http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/\) which the
community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete
(or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team)
would need to commit these back to the source code.If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you.
Best regards,
JasonOn Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> > wrote:
Dear all
Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in
DHIS2 are not common in Egypt (https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png\).
The months that are common are (Jan - Dec):يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر ,
أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبرHow would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language
Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months?Best regards
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The easiest way is simply to create an “ar_EG” locale. If the translations do not exist in “ar_EG”, it will fall back to “ar” and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward.
Regards,
Jason
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolliffe@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding
back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest
approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the
translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the
similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely
on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the
Egyptian version?
On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would
need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the
user interface.
We maintain a translation site here
(http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) which the
community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete
(or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team)
would need to commit these back to the source code.
If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org
wrote:
Dear all
Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in
DHIS2 are not common in Egypt (https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png).
The months that are common are (Jan - Dec):
يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر ,
أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر
How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language
Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months?
Best regards
David
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That sounds like the way it should work 
On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations
do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist
there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in
this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty
straightforward.Regards,
JasonOn Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding
back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest
approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the
translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the
similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely
on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the
Egyptian version?On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> >> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you
> would
> need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through
> the
> user interface.
>
> We maintain a translation site here
> (http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/\) which the
> community can use to make translations. Once the translations are
> complete
> (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development
> team)
> would need to commit these back to the source code.
>
> If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you.
>
> Best regards,
> Jason
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> >> > wrote:
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in
>> DHIS2 are not common in Egypt (https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png\).
>> The months that are common are (Jan - Dec):
>>
>> يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر ,
>> أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر
>>
>> How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a
>> dhis2-language
>> Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months?
>>
>> Best regards
>> David
>>
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Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering wrote:The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote:I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering wrote:Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here () which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser wrote:Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt (). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :-- Jason P. Pickering email: _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :-- Jason P. Pickering email:
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Dear all
I'm confused, this article () states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months. If I change the interface language in profile settings to and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (). What I still see: What am I missing? It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, or? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language () just because of their common names of months. Best regards David
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia
Arabic (Sudan)*[http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_SD/dhis2-translations/dhis-service-core/ar_SD.po/translate/#search=January&sfields=source,target](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_SD/dhis2-translations/dhis-service-core/ar_SD.po/translate/#search=January&sfields=source,target)
https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png
Arabic Arabic (Egypt)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested? Regards, David
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On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering wrote:The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote:I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering wrote:Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here () which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser wrote:Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt (). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :-- Jason P. Pickering email: _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :-- Jason P. Pickering email:
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On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 4:25 PM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Dear all
I'm confused, this article ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months. If I change the interface language in profile settings to * Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version ([http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_SD/dhis2-translations/dhis-service-core/ar_SD.po/translate/#search=January&sfields=source,target](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_SD/dhis2-translations/dhis-service-core/ar_SD.po/translate/#search=January&sfields=source,target)). What I still see: [https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing? It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months. Best regards DavidOn 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested? Regards, David On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: [https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users) Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users) More help : [https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)-- Jason P. Pickering email: jason.p.pickering@gmail.com tel:+46764147049 _______________________________________________ Mailing list: [https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users) Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users) More help : [https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)-- Jason P. Pickering email: jason.p.pickering@gmail.com tel:+46764147049–
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Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either “ar” or “ar_EG”, then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It’s up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Dear all
I’m confused, this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to Arabic (Sudan) and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png
What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, Arabic or Arabic (Egypt)?
But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I’m coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an “ar_EG” locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work
The easiest way is simply to create an “ar_EG” locale. If the translations do not exist in “ar_EG”, it will fall back to “ar” and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolliffe@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here (http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt (https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute
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4002 Basel, Switzerland
Dear Jason
In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for *Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic*
translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code?
Best regards
David
On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser < > wrote:
Dear all
I’m confused, this article ( ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to *Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :
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**David Huser**
Informatics Specialist
Swiss Centre for International Health
Tel: +41 79 740 63 41
Skype: dafhus
david.huser@swisstph.org
**Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box
4002 Basel, Switzerland
[www.swisstph.ch](www.swisstph.ch)
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david.huser@swisstph.orghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabiajason.p.pickering@gmail.comjason.p.pickering@gmail.comhttp://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/david.huser@swisstph.orghttps://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.pnghttps://launchpad.net/~dhis2-usersdhis2-users@lists.launchpad.nethttps://launchpad.net/~dhis2-usershttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Dear Jason
In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for *Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards David On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org > wrote:
Dear all
I’m confused, this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to *Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/)[http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: [https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users) Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users) More help : [https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)
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–
**David Huser** Informatics Specialist Swiss Centre for International Health Tel: +41 79 740 63 41 Skype: dafhus [david.huser@swisstph.org](http://david.huser@swisstph.org)
Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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tel:+46764147049
Hi Jason
Here for *ar_eg*
: and here for (example): I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks David
http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions
ar http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863
On 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:Dear Jason
In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for *Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards DavidOn 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org > wrote:
Dear all
I’m confused, this article ( ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to *Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :
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** Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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** Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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<small>
**David Huser**
Informatics Specialist
Swiss Centre for International Health
Tel: +41 79 740 63 41
Skype: dafhus
david.huser@swisstph.org
**Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box
4002 Basel, Switzerland
[www.swisstph.ch](www.swisstph.ch)
</small>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabiahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristicsjason.p.pickering@gmail.combobjolliffe@gmail.comjason.p.pickering@gmail.comhttp://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/david.huser@swisstph.orghttps://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.pnghttps://launchpad.net/~dhis2-usersdhis2-users@lists.launchpad.nethttps://launchpad.net/~dhis2-usershttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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tel:+46764147049
OK. Could you please create a login and submit these?
These show up only as suggestions in the system, and are not written to the source code when we sync with the server.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Hi Jason
Here for *ar_eg*: [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions) and here for *ar* (example): [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863) I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks David On 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
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On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Dear Jason
In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for *Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards DavidOn 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org > wrote:
Dear all
I’m confused, this article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to *Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/)[http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) More help : [](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)[https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)
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Apologies, Jason. I submitted them now as a registered user.
Thanks a lot!
David
On 30.03.2016 15:51, Jason Pickering wrote:
OK. Could you please create a login and submit these?
These show up only as suggestions in the system, and are not written to the source code when we sync with the server.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:Hi Jason
Here for *ar_eg* : [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions) and here for *ar* (example): [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863) I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks DavidOn 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <> wrote:Dear Jason In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for *Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards David On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser < > wrote:
Dear all
I'm confused, this article ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to *Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :
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Hi David,
Thanks. I will let you know when we are able to get this into the source code.
Thanks again for your contributions.
Regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:20 PM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Apologies, Jason. I submitted them now as a registered user.
Thanks a lot! David On 30.03.2016 15:51, Jason Pickering wrote:
OK. Could you please create a login and submit these?
These show up only as suggestions in the system, and are not written to the source code when we sync with the server.
Best regards,
Jason
–
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Hi Jason
Here for *ar_eg* : [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions) and here for *ar* (example): [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863) I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks DavidOn 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
–
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tel:+46764147049
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Dear Jason In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for *Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards David On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org > wrote:
Dear all
I'm confused, this article ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to *Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/)[http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) More help : [](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)[https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)
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Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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** Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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tel:+46764147049
Jason P. Pickering
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tel:+46764147049
Hi David,
I have committed your changes to trunk and the 2.22 branch.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David,
Thanks. I will let you know when we are able to get this into the source code.
Thanks again for your contributions.
Regards,
Jason
–
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:20 PM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Apologies, Jason. I submitted them now as a registered user.
Thanks a lot! David On 30.03.2016 15:51, Jason Pickering wrote:
OK. Could you please create a login and submit these?
These show up only as suggestions in the system, and are not written to the source code when we sync with the server.
Best regards,
Jason
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Hi Jason
Here for *ar_eg* : [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions) and here for *ar* (example): [http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863) I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks DavidOn 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
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tel:+46764147049
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Dear Jason In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for *Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards David On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org > wrote:
Dear all
I'm confused, this article ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to *Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or *Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/)[http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) More help : [](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)[https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)
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**David Huser** Informatics Specialist Swiss Centre for International Health Tel: +41 79 740 63 41 Skype: dafhus [david.huser@swisstph.org](http://david.huser@swisstph.org)
** Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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** Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box 4002 Basel, Switzerland [www.swisstph.ch](http://www.swisstph.ch)
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Jason P. Pickering
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tel:+46764147049
Hi Jason
Thanks a lot. I see there is the Egyptian flavor in place, but I could not see any changes made to the Arabic main translations because they are still in "suggested" state, although I submitted them the same way as the other. Does somebody have to review them first?
Best regards
David
On 31.03.2016 08:17, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I have committed your changes to trunk and the 2.22 branch.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:Hi David,
Thanks. I will let you know when we are able to get this into the source code.
Thanks again for your contributions.
Regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:20 PM, David Huser <> wrote:Apologies, Jason. I submitted them now as a registered user. Thanks a lot! David On 30.03.2016 15:51, Jason Pickering wrote:
OK. Could you please create a login and submit these?
These show up only as suggestions in the system, and are not written to the source code when we sync with the server.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, David Huser <> wrote:Hi Jason
Here for *ar_eg*: [](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions) and here for (example): I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks
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<small>
**David Huser**
Informatics Specialist
Swiss Centre for International Health
Tel: +41 79 740 63 41
Skype: dafhus
david.huser@swisstph.org
**Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
Socinstrasse 57, P.O. Box
4002 Basel, Switzerland
[www.swisstph.ch](www.swisstph.ch)
</small>
david.huser@swisstph.orgdavid.huser@swisstph.orghttp://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions
ar http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863
David
On 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <> wrote:Dear Jason In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for * Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards David On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser < > wrote:
Dear all
I'm confused, this article ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to*Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or * Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :
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Skype: dafhus
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** Swiss Tropical and Public Health Institute**
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david.huser@swisstph.orgdavid.huser@swisstph.orghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabiahttps://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristicsjason.p.pickering@gmail.combobjolliffe@gmail.comjason.p.pickering@gmail.comhttp://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/david.huser@swisstph.orghttps://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.pnghttps://launchpad.net/~dhis2-usersdhis2-users@lists.launchpad.nethttps://launchpad.net/~dhis2-usershttps://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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No, there should be no need to review them. Once you are logged in and submit them, then I have to sync things with the source code, which I thought i did.
Could you please review https://github.com/dhis2/dhis2-translations/blob/master/dhis-service-core/ar_EG.po
and see if they are correct there? Many strings are empty, so don’t worry about those, just search for “janurary” and you should see them.
Otherwise, you will need to install the absolute latest build from the CI server to see any changes there.
Having said all of that, I am not sure these translations actually do anything. On https://play.dhis2.org/dev, I changed the language to a range of different ones (including ones I know we have translations for) and they seem to do nothing, at least in the data entry page.
This looks more like a bug to me.
Morten/Lars can you comment on whether periods can actually be translated?
Regards,
Jason
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:13 AM, David Huser david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:
Hi Jason
Thanks a lot. I see there is the Egyptian flavor in place, but I could not see any changes made to the Arabic main translations because they are still in "suggested" state, although I submitted them the same way as the other. Does somebody have to review them first? Best regards David On 31.03.2016 08:17, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I have committed your changes to trunk and the 2.22 branch.
Best regards,
Jason
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On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi David,
Thanks. I will let you know when we are able to get this into the source code.
Thanks again for your contributions.
Regards,
Jason
–
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tel:+46764147049
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:20 PM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Apologies, Jason. I submitted them now as a registered user. Thanks a lot! David On 30.03.2016 15:51, Jason Pickering wrote:
OK. Could you please create a login and submit these?
These show up only as suggestions in the system, and are not written to the source code when we sync with the server.
Best regards,
Jason
–
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tel:+46764147049
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Hi Jason
Here for *ar_eg*: [](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions)[http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions) and here for *ar* (example): [](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863)[http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar/dhis2-translations/translate.html#unit=524863) I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks David On 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
–
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email: jason.p.pickering@gmail.com
tel:+46764147049
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org>
wrote:
Dear Jason In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for * Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards David On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org > wrote:
Dear all
I'm confused, this article ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to*Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or * Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolliffe@gmail.com> wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering <jason.p.pickering@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/)[http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png)[https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) Post to : dhis2-users@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : [](https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-users)[https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users](https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-users) More help : [](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)[https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp](https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp)
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The month names are correct on github
and I deployed this war file from Build #227:
What I noticed is that only May has a field , but I don't know if this is relevant. Yes it may be a bug? I checked with a 2.20 instance and there the month names in data entry and data visualizer won't change after language change in profile settings.
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On 31.03.2016 10:22, Jason Pickering wrote:
No, there should be no need to review them. Once you are logged in and submit them, then I have to sync things with the source code, which I thought i did.
Could you please review https://github.com/dhis2/dhis2-translations/blob/master/dhis-service-core/ar_EG.po
and see if they are correct there? Many strings are empty, so don't worry about those, just search for "janurary" and you should see them.
Otherwise, you will need to install the absolute latest build from the CI server to see any changes there.
Having said all of that, I am not sure these translations actually do anything. On [https://play.dhis2.org/dev](https://play.dhis2.org/dev) , I changed the language to a range of different ones (including ones I know we have translations for) and they seem to do nothing, at least in the data entry page.
This looks more like a bug to me.
Morten/Lars can you comment on whether periods can actually be translated?
Regards,
Jason
On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 10:13 AM, David Huser <david.huser@swisstph.org> wrote:Hi Jason
Thanks a lot. I see there is the Egyptian flavor in place, but I could not see any changes made to the Arabic main translations because they are still in "suggested" state, although I submitted them the same way as the other. Does somebody have to review them first? Best regards DavidOn 31.03.2016 08:17, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
I have committed your changes to trunk and the 2.22 branch.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Jason Pickering <> wrote:Hi David,
Thanks. I will let you know when we are able to get this into the source code.
Thanks again for your contributions.
Regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 4:20 PM, David Huser <> wrote:Apologies, Jason. I submitted them now as a registered user. Thanks a lot! David On 30.03.2016 15:51, Jason Pickering wrote:
OK. Could you please create a login and submit these?
These show up only as suggestions in the system, and are not written to the source code when we sync with the server.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:30 PM, David Huser <> wrote:Hi Jason Here for *ar_eg* : [](http://translate.dhis2.org/ar_EG/dhis2-translations/translate.html#filter=suggestions) and here for (example): I did this as an anonymous user. Thanks
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On 30.03.2016 15:01, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David, I do not see these translations any where in the translation server. Where did you perform the translations?
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 11:39 AM, David Huser <> wrote:Dear Jason
In response to this old thread: I finally translated some terms for * Arabic (Egypt)* (only months differ) and missing *Arabic* translations. Could you please be so kind and commit them back to the source code? Best regards David On 27.10.2015 17:14, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David,
Although the language is there, the translation is not complete (or even started). Just like Egyptian Arabic, we have created a placeholder in the code for you to begin the translation process. If no translation is found, the interface falls back to English.
In the case you highlight, there is no translation thus the fallback to English.
For country variants, the Egyptian Arabic term (ar_EG) would be preferred over the based Arabic term (ar). This allows for partial variant translations, whereby you can utilize what has been translated in the main language (ar) and only translate the terms which differ. If no translation is found in either "ar" or "ar_EG", then the English term will be used.
Have a look at the statistics of the server (attached) and it will give you an idea of the level of completeness of each language. As you can see Arabic is pretty well translated, while Sudanese and Egyptian Arabic are really yet to be started.
It's up to you really to decide how to organize the translation. I know nothing about the difference between the two countries, but it would seem to make sense. Up to now, there has been little translation in the Sudanese Arabic, so I would suggest you just proceed. I can put you in touch with the people who were planning to do the Sudanese Arabic if you would like.
Regards,
Jason
On Tue, Oct 27, 2015, 15:25 David Huser < > wrote:
Dear all
I'm confused, this article ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arabic_names_of_calendar_months#Egypt.2C_Sudan.2C_Arabia) ) states that the Egypt version is the same as the Sudan version of the name of the months.
If I change the interface language in profile settings to*Arabic (Sudan)* and clearing the cache, it is not reflected anywhere, although the translation file states the correct (read: the Wikipedia) version (
).
What I still see: [](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) What am I missing?
It is possible that we translate more UI terms together with a team of Egyptians, on which version should we work, *Arabic* or * Arabic (Egypt)*? But it does not mean we can not merge Sudan and Egypt together in one language ([](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sudanese_Arabic#Unique_phonological_characteristics) ) just because of their common names of months.
Best regards
David
On 26.10.2015 10:17, David Huser wrote:
Dear all
I'm coming back to the Egypt version of the Arabic translation. Could you please create an "ar_EG" locale as a fork as suggested?
Regards,
David
On 07.10.2015 15:57, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
That sounds like the way it should work :-) On 7 October 2015 at 14:39, Jason Pickering wrote:
The easiest way is simply to create an "ar_EG" locale. If the translations do not exist in "ar_EG", it will fall back to "ar" and if they do not exist there , it will fall back to English. So, if all that needs to be done in this case, is to translate the month names, then it should be pretty straightforward. Regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:36 PM, Bob Jolliffe wrote:
I wonder what would be the smartest way of building on (and feeding back into) the existing Arabic translation work. I guess the simplest approach would be just to make a copy (fork) of Arabic on the translation server and change the months. But given the bulk of the similarity one feels there must be a better way. eg. to focus solely on the Arabic po and have a small patch script to generate the Egyptian version? On 7 October 2015 at 09:53, Jason Pickering wrote:
Hi David, We would need to create a new language for you (Arabic Egypt) and you would need to translate it there. These strings are not translatable through the user interface. We maintain a translation site here ([](http://translate.dhis2.org/projects/dhis2-translations/) ) which the community can use to make translations. Once the translations are complete (or as complete as you like them), we (meaning the core development team) would need to commit these back to the source code. If you would like to proceed with this, I can set up things for you. Best regards, Jason On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 10:46 AM, David Huser wrote:
Dear all Egypt uses normal ISO 8601 calendar months, but the months displayed in DHIS2 are not common in Egypt ([](https://i.imgur.com/bowYfyv.png) ). The months that are common are (Jan - Dec): يناير , فبراير , مارس , إبريل , مايو , يونيو , يوليو , أغسطس , سبتمبر , أكتوبر , نوفمبر , ديسمبر How would I go on to translate these? Do I have to create a dhis2-language Arabic (Egypt) which uses all Arabic resources except the months? Best regards David _______________________________________________ Mailing list: Post to : Unsubscribe : More help :
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