Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max * and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator
Any idea about this
Thanks in advance
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max * and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator
Any idea about this
Thanks in advance
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Hello,
I am using 2.21
And yes I noticed that indicator will do the job since I can use program indicator in data visualizer
Thanks
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To: Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max * and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator
Any idea about this
Thanks in advance
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Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
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Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max * and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator
Any idea about this
Thanks in advance
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Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
Project Manager
Health Information Systems Program
Tel: 041-367 1027
Cell: 082 374 2209
E-mail: elmarie@hisp.org
Skype: elmarie.claasen52
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Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max * and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator
Any idea about this
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for the clarifications, Elmarie and Dipali
I think these are good inputs to our dev team, and hope some of them will also chip into this conversation.
Cheers,
Knut
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Elmarie Claasen elmarie@hisp.org wrote:
Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
Project Manager
Health Information Systems Program
Tel: 041-367 1027
Cell: 082 374 2209
E-mail: elmarie@hisp.org
Skype: elmarie.claasen52
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From: Dhis2-users [mailto:dhis2-users-bounces+elmarie=hisp.org@lists.launchpad.net] On Behalf Of Dipali Sahu
Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max * and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator
Any idea about this
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
just wanted to add my voice in support for improving (e.g. making it faster and more reliable, supporting cohort analysis etc), rather than removing the aggregation query builder. While I think the program indicators are great, I think there are many cases where you would rather want to store the aggregate data.
One case I think is highly relevant (in the sense that countries are doing it now) is where you have some facilities reporting via tracker and other on paper/aggregate, and you would want the data to end up in the same data elements/data sets.
Olav
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Elmarie Claasen elmarie@hisp.org wrote:
Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
<image001.png>
Project Manager
Health Information Systems Program
Tel: 041-367 1027
Cell: 082 374 2209
E-mail: elmarie@hisp.org
Skype: elmarie.claasen52
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Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max _* _*and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is *
*mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator *
*Any idea about this *
Thanks in advance
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Dear All,
Am riding on Nami’s question on aggregate query builder.
I would like to know if there is a work around since the dropdown for “Data element for sum/average/min/max*” is not working in dhis2.21*
We have a data element in tracker which records the quantity of drugs dispensed to patients during ANC visits. We would like to aggregate the total drug dispensed to a dataset so as to calculate things like maximum stock or quantity of drugs to order.
Right now, am able to aggregate only the number of visits but not the actual drugs dispensed.
I will appreciated any suggestions.
Thanks,
Ese
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Olav Poppe olav.poppe@me.com wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to add my voice in support for improving (e.g. making it faster and more reliable, supporting cohort analysis etc), rather than removing the aggregation query builder. While I think the program indicators are great, I think there are many cases where you would rather want to store the aggregate data.
One case I think is highly relevant (in the sense that countries are doing it now) is where you have some facilities reporting via tracker and other on paper/aggregate, and you would want the data to end up in the same data elements/data sets.
Olav
- nov. 2015 kl. 23.01 skrev Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com:
Thanks for the clarifications, Elmarie and Dipali
I think these are good inputs to our dev team, and hope some of them will also chip into this conversation.
Cheers,
Knut
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Elmarie Claasen elmarie@hisp.org wrote:
Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
<image001.png>
Project Manager
Health Information Systems Program
Tel: 041-367 1027
Cell: 082 374 2209
E-mail: elmarie@hisp.org
Skype: elmarie.claasen52
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Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max _* _*and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is *
*mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator *
*Any idea about this *
Thanks in advance
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Dear All,
We are facing same problem create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element forsum/average/min/max _* _and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregation data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregation
Actually we cant to count Total Number of live birth from tracker capture patient type data element.
How can I do it in program indicator ?
Thanks
Regards
Fatema
On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Ese Egerega ese@cis.com.ng wrote:
Dear All,
Am riding on Nami’s question on aggregate query builder.
I would like to know if there is a work around since the dropdown for “Data element for sum/average/min/max*” is not working in dhis2.21*
We have a data element in tracker which records the quantity of drugs dispensed to patients during ANC visits. We would like to aggregate the total drug dispensed to a dataset so as to calculate things like maximum stock or quantity of drugs to order.
Right now, am able to aggregate only the number of visits but not the actual drugs dispensed.
I will appreciated any suggestions.
Thanks,
Ese
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Olav Poppe olav.poppe@me.com wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to add my voice in support for improving (e.g. making it faster and more reliable, supporting cohort analysis etc), rather than removing the aggregation query builder. While I think the program indicators are great, I think there are many cases where you would rather want to store the aggregate data.
One case I think is highly relevant (in the sense that countries are doing it now) is where you have some facilities reporting via tracker and other on paper/aggregate, and you would want the data to end up in the same data elements/data sets.
Olav
- nov. 2015 kl. 23.01 skrev Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com:
Thanks for the clarifications, Elmarie and Dipali
I think these are good inputs to our dev team, and hope some of them will also chip into this conversation.
Cheers,
Knut
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Elmarie Claasen elmarie@hisp.org wrote:
Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
<image001.png>
Project Manager
Health Information Systems Program
Tel: 041-367 1027
Cell: 082 374 2209
E-mail: elmarie@hisp.org
Skype: elmarie.claasen52
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Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
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Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max _* _*and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is *
*mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator *
*Any idea about this *
Thanks in advance
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Fatema Uddin
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Hi there,
in fact, aggregation query builder is already scheduled to be removed in version 2.23 and will be replaced by program indicators. Admittedly there are a few cases where persisted aggregate event data could be useful, however we think that generating the aggregate values “on the fly” will provide more flexibility and be less of a load on the server by avoiding large, nightly batch jobs.
The current aggregation query builder was not up to scratch and could have unpredictable behavior. At some point, we might use the program indicator engine as basis for supporting persistence of aggregated event data, but that is not top priority currently.
We encourage you to try out the program indicators and provide feedback to the dev team.
regards,
Lars
On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Uddin Fatema fatemacse@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
We are facing same problem create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element forsum/average/min/max _* _and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregation data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregation
Actually we cant to count Total Number of live birth from tracker capture patient type data element.
How can I do it in program indicator ?
Thanks
Regards
Fatema
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Ese Egerega ese@cis.com.ng wrote:
Dear All,
Am riding on Nami’s question on aggregate query builder.
I would like to know if there is a work around since the dropdown for “Data element for sum/average/min/max*” is not working in dhis2.21*
We have a data element in tracker which records the quantity of drugs dispensed to patients during ANC visits. We would like to aggregate the total drug dispensed to a dataset so as to calculate things like maximum stock or quantity of drugs to order.
Right now, am able to aggregate only the number of visits but not the actual drugs dispensed.
I will appreciated any suggestions.
Thanks,
Ese
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German House
House 10/A-2, Road 90
Gulshan 2, Dhaka 1212, Bangladesh
T +880 9666701000
F +880 28823099
M +880 19 6206 4712
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Olav Poppe olav.poppe@me.com wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to add my voice in support for improving (e.g. making it faster and more reliable, supporting cohort analysis etc), rather than removing the aggregation query builder. While I think the program indicators are great, I think there are many cases where you would rather want to store the aggregate data.
One case I think is highly relevant (in the sense that countries are doing it now) is where you have some facilities reporting via tracker and other on paper/aggregate, and you would want the data to end up in the same data elements/data sets.
Olav
- nov. 2015 kl. 23.01 skrev Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com:
Thanks for the clarifications, Elmarie and Dipali
I think these are good inputs to our dev team, and hope some of them will also chip into this conversation.
Cheers,
Knut
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Elmarie Claasen elmarie@hisp.org wrote:
Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
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Health Information Systems Program
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From: Dhis2-users [mailto:dhis2-users-bounces+elmarie=hisp.org@lists.launchpad.net] **On Behalf Of **Dipali Sahu
Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max _* _*and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is *
*mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator *
*Any idea about this *
Thanks in advance
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Lars Helge Øverland
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University of Oslo
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Hi Lars
If not further work on the Aggregation query builder feature, please don’t remove it. We actually find it very useful and is critical to our workflow. For example, we need to get Total patients seen in a facility. Now with queries the user can see total figures, plus when needed segregate them by age, gender, visit type (new,follow up etc.) and many more categories in Pivot tables which provides a easy interface to suffice all this.
Although it is possible to get these values through Program indicators, there is no flexibility to see data by a certain category like with the features that pivot table allow.
I have read other emails on the group that Aggregation query builder’s behavior is a bit unpredictable, but I haven’t been able to produce any errors yet, given we have heavy database and complicated queries.
Is it not possible to keep the Aggregation query feature as it is.
Thank you
Deepali
On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:
Hi there,
in fact, aggregation query builder is already scheduled to be removed in version 2.23 and will be replaced by program indicators. Admittedly there are a few cases where persisted aggregate event data could be useful, however we think that generating the aggregate values “on the fly” will provide more flexibility and be less of a load on the server by avoiding large, nightly batch jobs.
The current aggregation query builder was not up to scratch and could have unpredictable behavior. At some point, we might use the program indicator engine as basis for supporting persistence of aggregated event data, but that is not top priority currently.
We encourage you to try out the program indicators and provide feedback to the dev team.
regards,
Lars
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On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Uddin Fatema fatemacse@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
We are facing same problem create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element forsum/average/min/max _* _and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregation data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregation
Actually we cant to count Total Number of live birth from tracker capture patient type data element.
How can I do it in program indicator ?
Thanks
Regards
Fatema
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Ese Egerega ese@cis.com.ng wrote:
Dear All,
Am riding on Nami’s question on aggregate query builder.
I would like to know if there is a work around since the dropdown for “Data element for sum/average/min/max*” is not working in dhis2.21*
We have a data element in tracker which records the quantity of drugs dispensed to patients during ANC visits. We would like to aggregate the total drug dispensed to a dataset so as to calculate things like maximum stock or quantity of drugs to order.
Right now, am able to aggregate only the number of visits but not the actual drugs dispensed.
I will appreciated any suggestions.
Thanks,
Ese
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Fatema Uddin
Technical Advisor (HIS)-Support to the Health Sector Program II
Deutsche Gesellschaft für Internationale Zusammenarbeit (GIZ) GmbH
German House
House 10/A-2, Road 90
Gulshan 2, Dhaka 1212, Bangladesh
T +880 9666701000
F +880 28823099
M +880 19 6206 4712
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Olav Poppe olav.poppe@me.com wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to add my voice in support for improving (e.g. making it faster and more reliable, supporting cohort analysis etc), rather than removing the aggregation query builder. While I think the program indicators are great, I think there are many cases where you would rather want to store the aggregate data.
One case I think is highly relevant (in the sense that countries are doing it now) is where you have some facilities reporting via tracker and other on paper/aggregate, and you would want the data to end up in the same data elements/data sets.
Olav
- nov. 2015 kl. 23.01 skrev Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com:
Thanks for the clarifications, Elmarie and Dipali
I think these are good inputs to our dev team, and hope some of them will also chip into this conversation.
Cheers,
Knut
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Elmarie Claasen elmarie@hisp.org wrote:
Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
<image001.png>
Project Manager
Health Information Systems Program
Tel: 041-367 1027
Cell: 082 374 2209
E-mail: elmarie@hisp.org
Skype: elmarie.claasen52
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From: Dhis2-users [mailto:dhis2-users-bounces+elmarie=hisp.org@lists.launchpad.net] **On Behalf Of **Dipali Sahu
Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max _* _*and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is *
*mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator *
*Any idea about this *
Thanks in advance
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Dear Lars
I am agreed with Dipali and like her we are using aggregated query builder to populate aggregated data sets.
So, please consider to keep this in future releases until and unless we find a suitable alternative.
Regards
Hannan Khan
HISP Bangladesh
On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Lars
If not further work on the Aggregation query builder feature, please don’t remove it. We actually find it very useful and is critical to our workflow. For example, we need to get Total patients seen in a facility. Now with queries the user can see total figures, plus when needed segregate them by age, gender, visit type (new,follow up etc.) and many more categories in Pivot tables which provides a easy interface to suffice all this.
Although it is possible to get these values through Program indicators, there is no flexibility to see data by a certain category like with the features that pivot table allow.
I have read other emails on the group that Aggregation query builder’s behavior is a bit unpredictable, but I haven’t been able to produce any errors yet, given we have heavy database and complicated queries.
Is it not possible to keep the Aggregation query feature as it is.
Thank you
Deepali
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On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 10:10 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:
Hi there,
in fact, aggregation query builder is already scheduled to be removed in version 2.23 and will be replaced by program indicators. Admittedly there are a few cases where persisted aggregate event data could be useful, however we think that generating the aggregate values “on the fly” will provide more flexibility and be less of a load on the server by avoiding large, nightly batch jobs.
The current aggregation query builder was not up to scratch and could have unpredictable behavior. At some point, we might use the program indicator engine as basis for supporting persistence of aggregated event data, but that is not top priority currently.
We encourage you to try out the program indicators and provide feedback to the dev team.
regards,
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On Sun, Mar 13, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Uddin Fatema fatemacse@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
We are facing same problem create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element forsum/average/min/max _* _and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is
mandatory and the data aggregation data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregation
Actually we cant to count Total Number of live birth from tracker capture patient type data element.
How can I do it in program indicator ?
Thanks
Regards
Fatema
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:21 PM, Ese Egerega ese@cis.com.ng wrote:
Dear All,
Am riding on Nami’s question on aggregate query builder.
I would like to know if there is a work around since the dropdown for “Data element for sum/average/min/max*” is not working in dhis2.21*
We have a data element in tracker which records the quantity of drugs dispensed to patients during ANC visits. We would like to aggregate the total drug dispensed to a dataset so as to calculate things like maximum stock or quantity of drugs to order.
Right now, am able to aggregate only the number of visits but not the actual drugs dispensed.
I will appreciated any suggestions.
Thanks,
Ese
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Fatema Uddin
Technical Advisor (HIS)-Support to the Health Sector Program II
Deutsche Gesellschaft für Internationale Zusammenarbeit (GIZ) GmbH
German House
House 10/A-2, Road 90
Gulshan 2, Dhaka 1212, Bangladesh
T +880 9666701000
F +880 28823099
M +880 19 6206 4712
On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 8:22 AM, Olav Poppe olav.poppe@me.com wrote:
Hi,
just wanted to add my voice in support for improving (e.g. making it faster and more reliable, supporting cohort analysis etc), rather than removing the aggregation query builder. While I think the program indicators are great, I think there are many cases where you would rather want to store the aggregate data.
One case I think is highly relevant (in the sense that countries are doing it now) is where you have some facilities reporting via tracker and other on paper/aggregate, and you would want the data to end up in the same data elements/data sets.
Olav
- nov. 2015 kl. 23.01 skrev Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com:
Thanks for the clarifications, Elmarie and Dipali
I think these are good inputs to our dev team, and hope some of them will also chip into this conversation.
Cheers,
Knut
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On Fri, Nov 27, 2015 at 4:11 AM, Elmarie Claasen elmarie@hisp.org wrote:
Hi Knut,
Although I can see that program indicators can be helpful it has limited use in the context of interoperability between DHIS2 instances. In South Africa we feel that Survey type instances should be kept separate from Routine Health data collection and as such collect event or tracker data for surveys and would want to set up aggregated data elements in the system which populates with a stored aggregated data value which we export/synchronise with the routine HMIS system e.g.
Patient satisfaction survey rate = No of surveys conducted/No of facilities
Patient satisfaction rate = No of satisfied responses/All responses
It is true that these aggregated elements can be populated with a function called via a sql view or cron job but not the most ideal.
Up to now I have not figured out how to set up an indicator which counts if there was any surveys done in a specific period by adding a program indicator due to the limited amount of mathematical calculation formulae allowed in the Program Indicator engine.
This said I must say that we don’t have much confidence in the accuracy of the Aggregation Query Builder as it is at the moment because there seems to be a ceiling limit on how many values can actually be inserted by running a scheduled or manual aggregation process and the simultaneous initiation of scheduled Aggregation Query builder and Analytics are problematic. For this reason we are checking the output of the Aggregation Query builder at this stage and when not entirely confident that it produces reliable results we are using functions instead.
Regards,
Elmarie Claasen
<image001.png>
Project Manager
Health Information Systems Program
Tel: 041-367 1027
Cell: 082 374 2209
E-mail: elmarie@hisp.org
Skype: elmarie.claasen52
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From: Dhis2-users [mailto:dhis2-users-bounces+elmarie=hisp.org@lists.launchpad.net] **On Behalf Of **Dipali Sahu
Sent: 26 November 2015 12:49 PM
To: Knut Staring
Cc: DHIS 2 Users list
Subject: Re: [Dhis2-users] Aggregation query builder details
Hi Knut
We actually use Aggregation query builder to a large extent to get aggregated data. Exclusively, all our data is captured through Event capture, and we aggregate it through Aggregation query builder, so that the aggregated values can be shown in datasets as well as Pivot tables.
Also, using Pivot tables with data elements is easier for the end users since they there is flexibility to can slice and dice the data with categories under Pivot tables.
Don’t you think aggregation with only program indicators will limit the use of categories and therefore easy visualization under pivot tables.
Thank you
Deepali
International Medical Corps
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Nami,
Which version of DHIS2 are you working on? We are phasing out the aggregation query builder in favor of program indicators.
Knut
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Nami Ghadri nami_ghadri@hotmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I want to create an Aggregation query builder details as sum of data element value I put everything but it comes to Data element for sum/average/min/max _* _*and try to select I can’t find anything and this field is *
*mandatory and the data aggregator data element and tracker data element both has sum aggregator *
*Any idea about this *
Thanks in advance
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