Setting up Point of Service sites

Hello all,

I am interested in knowing how teams are setting up Point of Service sites in DHIS.

I have thought of a couple of ways to do so:

  • Create an Organisational Unit level (POS) underneath facility level which will collect Testing and Counseling data via a data set which is set up to only be accessible to Org Units at this POS level
  • Create a data set for Testing and Counseling data and add a Point of Service Category to it. Data will be added at the Facility level: data set, reporting period AND Point of Service Type would be selected prior to adding data on the data entry screen.

I imagine this is not an issue unique to us and am curious what others’ solutions are.

Thanks in advance.

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Laura E. Lincks
Database Manager/Developer
ICAP - Columbia University
Mailman School of Public Health
60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132

Hi Laura,

let me ask:

  • What are your “point of services” ?

  • How many?

  • Are the point of services consistent across all facilities, or are there lots of variation?

If the point of services are few and consistent across most facilities I would use data set categories.

If they differ a lot (most likely) I would use org units.

regards,

Lars

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On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Laura E. Lincks laura.lincks@icap.columbia.edu wrote:

Hello all,

I am interested in knowing how teams are setting up Point of Service sites in DHIS.

I have thought of a couple of ways to do so:

  • Create an Organisational Unit level (POS) underneath facility level which will collect Testing and Counseling data via a data set which is set up to only be accessible to Org Units at this POS level
  • Create a data set for Testing and Counseling data and add a Point of Service Category to it. Data will be added at the Facility level: data set, reporting period AND Point of Service Type would be selected prior to adding data on the data entry screen.

I imagine this is not an issue unique to us and am curious what others’ solutions are.

Thanks in advance.

Laura E. Lincks
Database Manager/Developer
ICAP - Columbia University
Mailman School of Public Health
60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132


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A point of service in our world is sort of like a specialty treatment center within a facility, a hospital, etc. pertaining to HIV Testing and Counseling. It could be as specific as “In-patient for Adult Males” or a general “Outpatient” or it could be “Family Planning” or “VCT”. I’m dealing with 2 issues at the moment: addressing the immediate need of a specific country for reporting this week and devising a consistent way to set up all countries’ POSs.

For the specific country issue we are setting them up as another organisation unit level. We can change that later if need be, but we needed a solution now. This country has very few POS types (2 or 3) and very few sites with POS (14-15). We have been having some confusion with categories for this country and are in the midst of cleaning some of that up so I didn’t want to add more categories.

I agree that if POSs are not consistent across all Org Units a data set categoriy could cause potential confusion or data entry errors.

Creating POSs as Org Unit levels below facility level is how we do it in our Universal system. Some of our countries use other sub-facility Org Unit levels for other purposes in their DHIS instances and deal with POS in other ways. Data set category is one way but they also have a form where they just extract the data and assign it to the proper POS in other systems if need be – not very efficient. I’m trying to determine how best to apply a consistent structure for a Universal configuration. For now we have mixed solutions in place.

Does DHIS have a limit in regard to the number of Org Unit levels can be set up?

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Lars Helge Øverland larshelge@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Laura,

let me ask:

  • What are your “point of services” ?
  • How many?
  • Are the point of services consistent across all facilities, or are there lots of variation?

If the point of services are few and consistent across most facilities I would use data set categories.

If they differ a lot (most likely) I would use org units.

regards,

Lars

Laura E. Lincks
Database Manager/Developer
ICAP - Columbia University
Mailman School of Public Health
60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Laura E. Lincks laura.lincks@icap.columbia.edu wrote:

Hello all,

I am interested in knowing how teams are setting up Point of Service sites in DHIS.

I have thought of a couple of ways to do so:

  • Create an Organisational Unit level (POS) underneath facility level which will collect Testing and Counseling data via a data set which is set up to only be accessible to Org Units at this POS level
  • Create a data set for Testing and Counseling data and add a Point of Service Category to it. Data will be added at the Facility level: data set, reporting period AND Point of Service Type would be selected prior to adding data on the data entry screen.

I imagine this is not an issue unique to us and am curious what others’ solutions are.

Thanks in advance.

Laura E. Lincks
Database Manager/Developer
ICAP - Columbia University
Mailman School of Public Health
60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132


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Lead developer, DHIS 2

University of Oslo

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http://www.dhis2.org

Hi Laura,

There is no limit to the number of levels.

Knut

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On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Laura E. Lincks laura.lincks@icap.columbia.edu wrote:

A point of service in our world is sort of like a specialty treatment center within a facility, a hospital, etc. pertaining to HIV Testing and Counseling. It could be as specific as “In-patient for Adult Males” or a general “Outpatient” or it could be “Family Planning” or “VCT”. I’m dealing with 2 issues at the moment: addressing the immediate need of a specific country for reporting this week and devising a consistent way to set up all countries’ POSs.

For the specific country issue we are setting them up as another organisation unit level. We can change that later if need be, but we needed a solution now. This country has very few POS types (2 or 3) and very few sites with POS (14-15). We have been having some confusion with categories for this country and are in the midst of cleaning some of that up so I didn’t want to add more categories.

I agree that if POSs are not consistent across all Org Units a data set categoriy could cause potential confusion or data entry errors.

Creating POSs as Org Unit levels below facility level is how we do it in our Universal system. Some of our countries use other sub-facility Org Unit levels for other purposes in their DHIS instances and deal with POS in other ways. Data set category is one way but they also have a form where they just extract the data and assign it to the proper POS in other systems if need be – not very efficient. I’m trying to determine how best to apply a consistent structure for a Universal configuration. For now we have mixed solutions in place.

Does DHIS have a limit in regard to the number of Org Unit levels can be set up?


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60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Lars Helge Øverland larshelge@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Laura,

let me ask:

  • What are your “point of services” ?
  • How many?
  • Are the point of services consistent across all facilities, or are there lots of variation?

If the point of services are few and consistent across most facilities I would use data set categories.

If they differ a lot (most likely) I would use org units.

regards,

Lars

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Laura E. Lincks laura.lincks@icap.columbia.edu wrote:

Hello all,

I am interested in knowing how teams are setting up Point of Service sites in DHIS.

I have thought of a couple of ways to do so:

  • Create an Organisational Unit level (POS) underneath facility level which will collect Testing and Counseling data via a data set which is set up to only be accessible to Org Units at this POS level
  • Create a data set for Testing and Counseling data and add a Point of Service Category to it. Data will be added at the Facility level: data set, reporting period AND Point of Service Type would be selected prior to adding data on the data entry screen.

I imagine this is not an issue unique to us and am curious what others’ solutions are.

Thanks in advance.

Laura E. Lincks
Database Manager/Developer
ICAP - Columbia University
Mailman School of Public Health
60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132


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Lead developer, DHIS 2

University of Oslo

Skype: larshelgeoverland

http://www.dhis2.org

Knut Staring

Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo

Norway: +4791880522

Skype: knutstar

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Hi Laura,

In South Africa we collect data at service point E.g hospital ward or consulting room below facility or outreach team. We even have one program where we collect data per outreach team member although due to staff changes we have generalised the name of the orgunit not to the health workers name but a more generic name with a no attached.

These initiatives started mostly as a data quality improvement measure because it eliminates human error in compiling data from different service points.

The only issue we found over the last probably 5 years of collecting service point data is that we try to.keep the orgunits to a

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Laura E. Lincks
Database Manager/Developer
ICAP - Columbia University
Mailman School of Public Health
60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Lars Helge Øverland larshelge@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Laura,

let me ask:

  • What are your “point of services” ?
  • How many?
  • Are the point of services consistent across all facilities, or are there lots of variation?

If the point of services are few and consistent across most facilities I would use data set categories.

If they differ a lot (most likely) I would use org units.

regards,

Lars

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Laura E. Lincks laura.lincks@icap.columbia.edu wrote:

Hello all,

I am interested in knowing how teams are setting up Point of Service sites in DHIS.

I have thought of a couple of ways to do so:

  • Create an Organisational Unit level (POS) underneath facility level which will collect Testing and Counseling data via a data set which is set up to only be accessible to Org Units at this POS level
  • Create a data set for Testing and Counseling data and add a Point of Service Category to it. Data will be added at the Facility level: data set, reporting period AND Point of Service Type would be selected prior to adding data on the data entry screen.

I imagine this is not an issue unique to us and am curious what others’ solutions are.

Thanks in advance.

Laura E. Lincks
Database Manager/Developer
ICAP - Columbia University
Mailman School of Public Health
60 Haven Ave, Floor B1
New York, NY 10032
Tel: 212 304 7132


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Lead developer, DHIS 2

University of Oslo

Skype: larshelgeoverland

http://www.dhis2.org

Hi Laura,

In South Africa we collect data at service point E.g hospital ward or consulting room below facility or outreach team. We even have one program where we collect data per outreach team member although due to staff changes we have generalised the name of the orgunit not to the health workers name but a more generic name with a no attached.

These initiatives started mostly as a data quality improvement measure because it eliminates human error in compiling data from different service points.

The only issue we found over the last probably 5 years of collecting service point data is that we try to.keep the orgunits to a physical area or functional outreach team rather than certain services like PMTCT stats reason being that such service data can still be collected from different service areas in the health facility.

Certain parts of our datasets are still collected only at facility levelbthough. The only advice I can give is if you.are collecting data at different levels ensure that they are in different datasets so that you.carefully manage the capturing orgunit.

Elmarie Claasen

A point of service in our world is sort of like a specialty treatment center within a facility, a hospital, etc. pertaining to HIV Testing and Counseling. It could be as specific as “In-patient for Adult Males” or a general “Outpatient” or it could be “Family Planning” or “VCT”. I’m dealing with 2 issues at the moment: addressing the immediate need of a specific country for reporting this week and devising a consistent way to set up all countries’ POSs.

For the specific country issue we are setting them up as another organisation unit level. We can change that later if need be, but we needed a solution now. This country has very few POS types (2 or 3) and very few sites with POS (14-15). We have been having some confusion with categories for this country and are in the midst of cleaning some of that up so I didn’t want to add more categories.

I agree that if POSs are not consistent across all Org Units a data set categoriy could cause potential confusion or data entry errors.

Creating POSs as Org Unit levels below facility level is how we do it in our Universal system. Some of our countries use other sub-facility Org Unit levels for other purposes in their DHIS instances and deal with POS in other ways. Data set category is one way but they also have a form where they just extract the data and assign it to the proper POS in other systems if need be – not very efficient. I’m trying to determine how best to apply a consistent structure for a Universal configuration. For now we have mixed solutions in place.

Does DHIS have a limit in regard to the number of Org Unit levels can be set up?

Laura E. Lincks

Database Manager/Developer

ICAP - Columbia University

Mailman School of Public Health

60 Haven Ave, Floor B1

New York, NY 10032

Tel: 212 304 7132

Hi Laura,

let me ask:

  • What are your “point of services” ?
  • How many?
  • Are the point of services consistent across all facilities, or are there lots of variation?

If the point of services are few and consistent across most facilities I would use data set categories.

If they differ a lot (most likely) I would use org units.

regards,

Lars

Hello all,

I am interested in knowing how teams are setting up Point of Service sites in DHIS.

I have thought of a couple of ways to do so:

Create an Organisational Unit level (POS) underneath facility level which will collect Testing and Counseling data via a data set which is set up to only be accessible to Org Units at this POS level

Create a data set for Testing and Counseling data and add a Point of Service Category to it. Data will be added at the Facility level: data set, reporting period AND Point of Service Type would be selected prior to adding data on the data entry screen.

I imagine this is not an issue unique to us and am curious what others’ solutions are.

Thanks in advance.

Laura E. Lincks

Database Manager/Developer

ICAP - Columbia University

Mailman School of Public Health

60 Haven Ave, Floor B1

New York, NY 10032

Tel: 212 304 7132


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On 14 Oct 2015 02:49, “Elmarie Claasen” elmarie@hisp.org wrote:

On 13 Oct 2015 17:58, “Laura E. Lincks” laura.lincks@icap.columbia.edu wrote:

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Lars Helge Øverland larshelge@gmail.com wrote:

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Laura E. Lincks laura.lincks@icap.columbia.edu wrote: