Hi Kim Anh,
Thanks a lot for your ideas.
There are some things I am still don’t understand much. Could you please explain more detail about manage items. and how to create that in current DHIS. I still can’t image how to do it using dataelement and data entry form.
Example
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- FHB receives items from supplier.
They will input the details of items as below
Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
Condom A - CA - 11/2012 - 100 - 50000
Condom B - CB - 03/2014 - 150 - 10000
Condom C - CC - 09/2011 - 50 - 20000
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FHB view reports from RMDSs Report look like the 1158 form and see that RMDS1 need 1000 condoms. So FHB issues to RMDS1 1000 condoms (A, B, C)
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RMDS1 receives items from FHB and input details of items they got as below
Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
Condom A - CA - 11/2012 - 110 - 300
Condom B - CB - 03/2014 - 160 - 200
Condom C - CC - 09/2011 - 60 - 500
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RMDS1 view reports 1158 from MOHs to see how much their MOHs want and see MOH11 need 500 comdoms this month. So RMDS1 issue 500 condoms (A, B, C) to the MOH1. (each RMDS has about 7 to 15 MOHs)
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MOH11 receives items from RMDS1 and input details of items they got
Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
Condom A - CA - 11/2012 - 120 - 100
MOH15 receives items from RMDS1 and input details of items they got
Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
Condom C - CA - 11/2012 - 120 - 45
MOH15 receives items from RMDS1 and input details of items they got
Name - Code - Date exp - Unit Price - Quantity
Condom C - CC - 11/2012 - 120 - 30
Condom B - CB - 03/2014 - 160 - 50
Then my question is if we can use current DHIS, then how can we identify which one is data element?
If we create Comdom A as a data element with categories options are Name, code, date exp, unit price, quantity is impossible. Because catgory options are same data type
If we create seperate data elements as Comdom A Name, Condom A code, Condom A Date Exp,… then there would be many data elements, and these data entry forms won’t be stable because when time change, there would be be new kind of condom D available in the market.
And currently there is not Search function for data values in DHIS in aggregated report. So if I have the Condom name, I want to generate the list of organistation units were got it for last 6 months. but not view in each org unit. Because there would be many organisation units there.
I need more your explainations
Thuy
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From: Kim-Anh Vo catakim@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: New requirement from Sri Lanka
To: Thuy Nguyen thuy.hispvietnam@gmail.com
hello again,
That’s really interesting… as I guess.
DHIS2 is possible to be customized for monitoring items through levels.
Data:
There are two data-flow to be kept in mind: upward (request) and downward (return).
They’re all the input-data indeed!
So we need 2 collection of daels (categories also) with request/return as the identifiers.
Services: all functions taken place by calculation/modification/… between these two data-flow. Eg: reports (aggregated input data - the same form for input data up/downward and output, and monitoring purpose as well), analysis by chart, GIS.
With BIRT + reporttable concept (DHIS2): almost report-issues have clues for solution.
Keep it as simple as possible
Let me know how he project is going in the future.
I’m interested the practical uses/customizations of DHIS2 like this!
On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:27 AM, Thuy Nguyen thuy.hispvietnam@gmail.com wrote:
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From: Thuy Nguyen thuy.hispvietnam@gmail.com
Date: Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 3:44 AM
Subject: Re: New requirement from Sri Lanka
To: John lewis johnlewis.hisp@gmail.com
I was sleeping but wake up in the night and can’t stop thinking of the project. Let me describ more about the process of existing system. There was an activity diagram but the doc she sent me by docx, i can’t see any table in that. I will send you tomorrow.
Level 1 National : FHB
Level 2 District : RMSD
Level 3 Division : MOH
The process from bottom to top
- the MOH send the request form to RMSD. The form has code RH MIS 1158 (Monthly Contraceptive Strock Return/Request form) as I sent in previous email.First of all
- This form has information of
- Month - Year send request
- Places the form would be sent to
- The main area of the form has a table with
- row is : condom, oral pill packet, injectables (DBMA) vials, intra uterine device and implants
- column is :
- Amount remain at the end of last month (a),
- amount received during a month,
- total
- amount issued/despensed during the month,
- amount remain at the end of the month
- amount require
- average monthly requirement :
- min qty
- max qty: depend on the need of that stock.
(3) = (1)+(2)(4)
(5) = (3)-(4)
(5) → (1) in next month
(6)=(8)-(5)
(7)= (sum (4) ) / Xmonths
(8)= Y * (7)
(9) = Z * (7)X : is number of months ( but atleast 3 months, or 6 months, 12 months,…)
Y : is minimum months of stock (Mos) that the specified org unit need to store. Example the min of MOH is 2 months of store. So if the (7) is 150. then Min quantity of MOH is 150 *2Z : is maximum months of stock.
- RMSD has 3 things to do
- look at the form with the number of items required from MOH, and depend on min max qty and the quantity where RDHS stock has ,they issue items to MOH. They also track information of items they issued to which MOH
- send the RH MIS 1158 to FHB to report remain items, issued items and require number of new items. (same with MOH send request form to it)
- After received items from FHB, RDHS need to confirm FHB that they got the items.
- FHB has 3 things to do
- receive the request form and issue items from RMSD.
- If the stock has not enough item, or need more, then it will get the items from suppliers.
- FHB also have detail information of items they got from supplier (name, quantity, date expiry, batch number, unit price, quantity price)
- FHB issue items to RMSD. information of issue (Issue date, item names, quantity, date expiry, batch/lot number, unit price, quantity price, distribute to) it can be refered from “Out put item report.JPG” file.
They want all information is save in central database, so that they can get all kind of report, and if there is problem with item, then they can generate report contain org unit were issued.
Anyway, I will work with her every afternoon so I will discuss more and get more information.
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Thuy
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Thuy
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Best regards,
Kim-Anh Vo