DHIS 2 - week

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
Shantala

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
Shantala


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We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
Shantala


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Thank you. This helps.

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
Shantala


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Could you elaborate a bit on your specific requirements?

Knut

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Thank you. This helps.


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
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Sure. The requirement is to have data collection done weekly with the week being an Epi week (epidemiology week), having week start date of Sunday and end date of Saturday.

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

Could you elaborate a bit on your specific requirements?

Knut

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Thank you. This helps.

Knut Staring

Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo

+4791880522

http://dhis2.org

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
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Hi Shantala,

As Knut’s email alludes to , along the article which you shared hints at, there may be different definitions of what an “Epi Week” actually is.

It is therefore that DHIS2 has adopted the ISO standard definition, which can be determined with precision, due to the rigor of its definition.

In your case, is you requirement that your week begins on Sunday instead of Monday, with the first week being determined by the “The first epi week of the year ends, by definition, on the first Saturday of January, as long as it falls at least four days into the month”?

A question to the developers…would it be possible to support a “user defined period type”, which would require that users create their own start/enddates? I realize that this would create problems for the offline features of DHIS2, but this requirement, along with similar ones in countries which do not use the Gregorian calendar, point to the need for something more flexible than what we currently have.

Regards,
Jason

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Sure. The requirement is to have data collection done weekly with the week being an Epi week (epidemiology week), having week start date of Sunday and end date of Saturday.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

Could you elaborate a bit on your specific requirements?

Knut

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Thank you. This helps.

Knut Staring

Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo

+4791880522

http://dhis2.org

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
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Yes, it would be great if the week numbers in a year and start & end days can be made configurable. I will wait to hear from this group on whether this is possible.

Regards,

Shantala

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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,

As Knut’s email alludes to , along the article which you shared hints at, there may be different definitions of what an “Epi Week” actually is.

It is therefore that DHIS2 has adopted the ISO standard definition, which can be determined with precision, due to the rigor of its definition.

In your case, is you requirement that your week begins on Sunday instead of Monday, with the first week being determined by the “The first epi week of the year ends, by definition, on the first Saturday of January, as long as it falls at least four days into the month”?

A question to the developers…would it be possible to support a “user defined period type”, which would require that users create their own start/enddates? I realize that this would create problems for the offline features of DHIS2, but this requirement, along with similar ones in countries which do not use the Gregorian calendar, point to the need for something more flexible than what we currently have.

Regards,
Jason

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Sure. The requirement is to have data collection done weekly with the week being an Epi week (epidemiology week), having week start date of Sunday and end date of Saturday.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

Could you elaborate a bit on your specific requirements?

Knut

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Thank you. This helps.

Knut Staring

Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo

+4791880522

http://dhis2.org

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
Shantala


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Hello all, I have an observation.

I’d like to know why when I generates the report on the validation data on the period column, she has dual display? if medium, can you review that?

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2014-03-25 9:16 GMT-07:00 Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com:

Yes, it would be great if the week numbers in a year and start & end days can be made configurable. I will wait to hear from this group on whether this is possible.

Regards,

Shantala


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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,

As Knut’s email alludes to , along the article which you shared hints at, there may be different definitions of what an “Epi Week” actually is.

It is therefore that DHIS2 has adopted the ISO standard definition, which can be determined with precision, due to the rigor of its definition.

In your case, is you requirement that your week begins on Sunday instead of Monday, with the first week being determined by the “The first epi week of the year ends, by definition, on the first Saturday of January, as long as it falls at least four days into the month”?

A question to the developers…would it be possible to support a “user defined period type”, which would require that users create their own start/enddates? I realize that this would create problems for the offline features of DHIS2, but this requirement, along with similar ones in countries which do not use the Gregorian calendar, point to the need for something more flexible than what we currently have.

Regards,
Jason

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Sure. The requirement is to have data collection done weekly with the week being an Epi week (epidemiology week), having week start date of Sunday and end date of Saturday.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

Could you elaborate a bit on your specific requirements?

Knut

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Thank you. This helps.

Knut Staring

Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo

+4791880522

http://dhis2.org

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
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A question to the developers...would it be possible to support a "user
defined period type", which would require that users create their own
start/enddates? I realize that this would create problems for the offline
features of DHIS2, but this requirement, along with similar ones in
countries which do not use the Gregorian calendar, point to the need for
something more flexible than what we currently have.

It is definitely possible (as with most things) and could be done. But it
will require a significant development effort, since dhis is currently
based on periods being generated in memory and persisted when needed. I do
understand the need for it and we are hearing it from multiple sources now.

Lars

Hi Carlos,

this was a problem with translations of the period keys. Its been fixed in 2.14 and development version.

regards,

Lars

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On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Carlos Nyembwe nyembwe@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all, I have an observation.

I’d like to know why when I generates the report on the validation data on the period column, she has dual display? if medium, can you review that?


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2014-03-25 9:16 GMT-07:00 Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com:

Yes, it would be great if the week numbers in a year and start & end days can be made configurable. I will wait to hear from this group on whether this is possible.

Regards,

Shantala


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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,

As Knut’s email alludes to , along the article which you shared hints at, there may be different definitions of what an “Epi Week” actually is.

It is therefore that DHIS2 has adopted the ISO standard definition, which can be determined with precision, due to the rigor of its definition.

In your case, is you requirement that your week begins on Sunday instead of Monday, with the first week being determined by the “The first epi week of the year ends, by definition, on the first Saturday of January, as long as it falls at least four days into the month”?

A question to the developers…would it be possible to support a “user defined period type”, which would require that users create their own start/enddates? I realize that this would create problems for the offline features of DHIS2, but this requirement, along with similar ones in countries which do not use the Gregorian calendar, point to the need for something more flexible than what we currently have.

Regards,
Jason

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Sure. The requirement is to have data collection done weekly with the week being an Epi week (epidemiology week), having week start date of Sunday and end date of Saturday.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

Could you elaborate a bit on your specific requirements?

Knut

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Thank you. This helps.

Knut Staring

Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo

+4791880522

http://dhis2.org

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
Shantala


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My thought on this was that the periods for user define periods would never be generated and they would only be available when users are able to contact the server. It would be up to implementers to define all required future and past periods. I guess we will never be able to cater to all requirements in terms of the periods which may be required. I am also thinking of the requirements from Nepal, where there is really no easy to to calculate the periods at all (algorithmically) but there are lists of Nepali months available for the next 20 years or so, which could be easily enough converted into DHIS2 type periods (startdate/enddate).

Regards,

Jason

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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 1:08 AM, Lars Helge Øverland larshelge@gmail.com wrote:

A question to the developers…would it be possible to support a “user defined period type”, which would require that users create their own start/enddates? I realize that this would create problems for the offline features of DHIS2, but this requirement, along with similar ones in countries which do not use the Gregorian calendar, point to the need for something more flexible than what we currently have.

It is definitely possible (as with most things) and could be done. But it will require a significant development effort, since dhis is currently based on periods being generated in memory and persisted when needed. I do understand the need for it and we are hearing it from multiple sources now.

Lars

This does look strange.

diapo.docx (180 KB)

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2014-03-26 2:58 GMT-07:00 Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com:

Bonjour Carlos, je n’ai pas entendu ta question - est-ce que tu peut decrir ton probleme en francais? Matthieu sera capable a interpreter. Ou peut-etre un capture d’ecran pour expliquer?

Knut

On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Carlos Nyembwe nyembwe@gmail.com wrote:

Hello all, I have an observation.

I’d like to know why when I generates the report on the validation data on the period column, she has dual display? if medium, can you review that?


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2014-03-25 9:16 GMT-07:00 Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com:

Yes, it would be great if the week numbers in a year and start & end days can be made configurable. I will wait to hear from this group on whether this is possible.

Regards,

Shantala


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On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,

As Knut’s email alludes to , along the article which you shared hints at, there may be different definitions of what an “Epi Week” actually is.

It is therefore that DHIS2 has adopted the ISO standard definition, which can be determined with precision, due to the rigor of its definition.

In your case, is you requirement that your week begins on Sunday instead of Monday, with the first week being determined by the “The first epi week of the year ends, by definition, on the first Saturday of January, as long as it falls at least four days into the month”?

A question to the developers…would it be possible to support a “user defined period type”, which would require that users create their own start/enddates? I realize that this would create problems for the offline features of DHIS2, but this requirement, along with similar ones in countries which do not use the Gregorian calendar, point to the need for something more flexible than what we currently have.

Regards,
Jason

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Sure. The requirement is to have data collection done weekly with the week being an Epi week (epidemiology week), having week start date of Sunday and end date of Saturday.

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

Could you elaborate a bit on your specific requirements?

Knut

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:14 AM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Thank you. This helps.

Knut Staring

Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo

+4791880522

http://dhis2.org

On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM, Knut Staring knutst@gmail.com wrote:

We have actually accommodated other weeks (eg Wed to Tue) in Cambodia, but this code is not yet part of the core.

On Mar 24, 2014 12:53 PM, “Jason Pickering” jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Shantala,
The weeks are calculated according to the ISO 8601 time and date standard.

This generally means weeks start on Monday and end on Sunday.

More info can be found here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_week_date

Regards,

Jason


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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Shantala Raman sraman@thoughtworks.com wrote:

Hi,

For data that is reported/collected on a weekly basis, we have a requirement to use Epidemiology weeks. I wanted to know how the weeks are calculated in DHIS2. Please point me to any documentation around the logic for calculating the weeks.

Thanks,
Shantala


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