We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
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I would also want to learn more.I was able to have such category combinations but the IPs were very few.However I didn’t manage to have some sort of filter that when one selects the program only IPs implementing such program should appear under that program.Instead all IPs appeared.Difficult for data quality incase someone selects an IP that is not implementing that program.
So.let’s learn
Stanley
On Apr 3, 2017 7:28 AM, “Sam Kasozi” kasozis@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
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Hi Sam,
yes it should be possible to set this up in DHIS 2.
In your case, if you create all 4 as categories you might end up with a very high number of option combo permutations.
However, it might be that you have fixed relationships within those categories. For example, it could be that one grant is supported by exactly one implementing partner and donor. In that case, you should not ask end users to actively select partner and donor in data entry; rather have them select the grant only (as a data set category). From there, you can set up category option groups and group sets:
Group set: Donor
Groups: USAID, DFID, etc
Group set: Implementing partner
Groups: PartnerA, PartnerB, etc
Then you assign each grant to exactly one group per group set. You can now do analytics based on the above dimensions without having end users explicitly selecting them in data entry. This will keep number of category option combos low and reduce time and errors during data entry. Make sure you set the category option group sets as “data dimension”.
Docs here.
regards,
Lars
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
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Yes, we do have fixed relationships within those categories, so this works for us!
This implementation is much safer as well since it will not require a data entrant to filter through the different categories.
Thank you.
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:
Hi Sam,
yes it should be possible to set this up in DHIS 2.
In your case, if you create all 4 as categories you might end up with a very high number of option combo permutations.
However, it might be that you have fixed relationships within those categories. For example, it could be that one grant is supported by exactly one implementing partner and donor. In that case, you should not ask end users to actively select partner and donor in data entry; rather have them select the grant only (as a data set category). From there, you can set up category option groups and group sets:
Group set: Donor
Groups: USAID, DFID, etc
Group set: Implementing partner
Groups: PartnerA, PartnerB, etc
Then you assign each grant to exactly one group per group set. You can now do analytics based on the above dimensions without having end users explicitly selecting them in data entry. This will keep number of category option combos low and reduce time and errors during data entry. Make sure you set the category option group sets as “data dimension”.
Docs here.
regards,
Lars
Sam Kasozi
+256 788-993-565
Skype: sam.kasoziug
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
+256 788-993-565
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Dear all,
This is also a requirement for us but we are wondering if it is possible to implement a “user” visibility of the data sets category options. For example a user from Spain only being acessible to the Spain Implementer Partners or a user only accessing to the category options where he’s in charge to enter data.
Thanks a lot!
Marc Garnica
2017-04-03 9:15 GMT+02:00 Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com:
Yes, we do have fixed relationships within those categories, so this works for us!
This implementation is much safer as well since it will not require a data entrant to filter through the different categories.
Thank you.
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:
Hi Sam,
yes it should be possible to set this up in DHIS 2.
In your case, if you create all 4 as categories you might end up with a very high number of option combo permutations.
However, it might be that you have fixed relationships within those categories. For example, it could be that one grant is supported by exactly one implementing partner and donor. In that case, you should not ask end users to actively select partner and donor in data entry; rather have them select the grant only (as a data set category). From there, you can set up category option groups and group sets:
Group set: Donor
Groups: USAID, DFID, etc
Group set: Implementing partner
Groups: PartnerA, PartnerB, etc
Then you assign each grant to exactly one group per group set. You can now do analytics based on the above dimensions without having end users explicitly selecting them in data entry. This will keep number of category option combos low and reduce time and errors during data entry. Make sure you set the category option group sets as “data dimension”.
Docs here.
regards,
Lars
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
+256 788-993-565
Skype: sam.kasoziug
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Yes, you can use “Sharing” controlled with user groups. However, it can get complex quickly, and usually requires very careful user management routines, coupled with automatic scripting to get it right.
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Marc Garnica marcgarnica13@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
This is also a requirement for us but we are wondering if it is possible to implement a “user” visibility of the data sets category options. For example a user from Spain only being acessible to the Spain Implementer Partners or a user only accessing to the category options where he’s in charge to enter data.
Thanks a lot!
Marc Garnica
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2017-04-03 9:15 GMT+02:00 Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com:
Yes, we do have fixed relationships within those categories, so this works for us!
This implementation is much safer as well since it will not require a data entrant to filter through the different categories.
Thank you.
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:
Hi Sam,
yes it should be possible to set this up in DHIS 2.
In your case, if you create all 4 as categories you might end up with a very high number of option combo permutations.
However, it might be that you have fixed relationships within those categories. For example, it could be that one grant is supported by exactly one implementing partner and donor. In that case, you should not ask end users to actively select partner and donor in data entry; rather have them select the grant only (as a data set category). From there, you can set up category option groups and group sets:
Group set: Donor
Groups: USAID, DFID, etc
Group set: Implementing partner
Groups: PartnerA, PartnerB, etc
Then you assign each grant to exactly one group per group set. You can now do analytics based on the above dimensions without having end users explicitly selecting them in data entry. This will keep number of category option combos low and reduce time and errors during data entry. Make sure you set the category option group sets as “data dimension”.
Docs here.
regards,
Lars
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
+256 788-993-565
Skype: sam.kasoziug
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Jason P. Pickering
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Hi Marc,
as Jason says you can use the sharing (docs) solution for this by sharing each category option (representing e.g. partners) appropriately. This can be done in many ways depending on the level of complexity of your organization. At its very basic level, you can create one user group per implementing partner, then share each partner category option with read access to the appropriate user group. This way, when partners log into data entry, they will only see the category options in the category drop-down which are relevant to them.
Sharing can easily grow complex so it is advisable to keep things simple and think through the design up front (as always).
regards,
Lars
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, you can use “Sharing” controlled with user groups. However, it can get complex quickly, and usually requires very careful user management routines, coupled with automatic scripting to get it right.
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Marc Garnica marcgarnica13@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
This is also a requirement for us but we are wondering if it is possible to implement a “user” visibility of the data sets category options. For example a user from Spain only being acessible to the Spain Implementer Partners or a user only accessing to the category options where he’s in charge to enter data.
Thanks a lot!
Marc Garnica
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2017-04-03 9:15 GMT+02:00 Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com:
Yes, we do have fixed relationships within those categories, so this works for us!
This implementation is much safer as well since it will not require a data entrant to filter through the different categories.
Thank you.
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:
Hi Sam,
yes it should be possible to set this up in DHIS 2.
In your case, if you create all 4 as categories you might end up with a very high number of option combo permutations.
However, it might be that you have fixed relationships within those categories. For example, it could be that one grant is supported by exactly one implementing partner and donor. In that case, you should not ask end users to actively select partner and donor in data entry; rather have them select the grant only (as a data set category). From there, you can set up category option groups and group sets:
Group set: Donor
Groups: USAID, DFID, etc
Group set: Implementing partner
Groups: PartnerA, PartnerB, etc
Then you assign each grant to exactly one group per group set. You can now do analytics based on the above dimensions without having end users explicitly selecting them in data entry. This will keep number of category option combos low and reduce time and errors during data entry. Make sure you set the category option group sets as “data dimension”.
Docs here.
regards,
Lars
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
+256 788-993-565
Skype: sam.kasoziug
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University of Oslo
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Nice solution! We will give a try. Thank you very much!
Marc
2017-04-03 10:08 GMT+02:00 Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org:
Hi Marc,
as Jason says you can use the sharing (docs) solution for this by sharing each category option (representing e.g. partners) appropriately. This can be done in many ways depending on the level of complexity of your organization. At its very basic level, you can create one user group per implementing partner, then share each partner category option with read access to the appropriate user group. This way, when partners log into data entry, they will only see the category options in the category drop-down which are relevant to them.
Sharing can easily grow complex so it is advisable to keep things simple and think through the design up front (as always).
regards,
Lars
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:44 AM, Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, you can use “Sharing” controlled with user groups. However, it can get complex quickly, and usually requires very careful user management routines, coupled with automatic scripting to get it right.
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 9:31 AM, Marc Garnica marcgarnica13@gmail.com wrote:
Dear all,
This is also a requirement for us but we are wondering if it is possible to implement a “user” visibility of the data sets category options. For example a user from Spain only being acessible to the Spain Implementer Partners or a user only accessing to the category options where he’s in charge to enter data.
Thanks a lot!
Marc Garnica
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2017-04-03 9:15 GMT+02:00 Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com:
Yes, we do have fixed relationships within those categories, so this works for us!
This implementation is much safer as well since it will not require a data entrant to filter through the different categories.
Thank you.
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On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 11:15 AM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:
Hi Sam,
yes it should be possible to set this up in DHIS 2.
In your case, if you create all 4 as categories you might end up with a very high number of option combo permutations.
However, it might be that you have fixed relationships within those categories. For example, it could be that one grant is supported by exactly one implementing partner and donor. In that case, you should not ask end users to actively select partner and donor in data entry; rather have them select the grant only (as a data set category). From there, you can set up category option groups and group sets:
Group set: Donor
Groups: USAID, DFID, etc
Group set: Implementing partner
Groups: PartnerA, PartnerB, etc
Then you assign each grant to exactly one group per group set. You can now do analytics based on the above dimensions without having end users explicitly selecting them in data entry. This will keep number of category option combos low and reduce time and errors during data entry. Make sure you set the category option group sets as “data dimension”.
Docs here.
regards,
Lars
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 7:28 AM, Sam Kasozi kasozis@gmail.com wrote:
We would like to add the data attributes: Donor, Program, Implementing Partner and Grant in a category combination to some datasets.
Looking at the data that needs to be imported, the Donors and Programs are few, however, the IPs and grants are in the range of 200 and 500 respectively; of course with potential to increase over time.
I am wondering if the DHIS2 is designed to manage that kind of data.
regards,
Sam Kasozi
+256 788-993-565
Skype: sam.kasoziug
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