[Dhis2-devs] Digit group separator in pivot table - what should the default value be?

At the start of voting I felt in total minority.

But according to the SI/ISO 31-0 standard he space is the only neutral separator. The space is appropriate also because in some countries the comma is the decimal separator (not always the democratic vote is the best choice.)

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2016-05-03 21:34 GMT+02:00 Bob Jolliffe bobjolliffe@gmail.com:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Digit_grouping

seems to support Jim’s suggestion of space as default.


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On 3 May 2016 at 21:32, Ola Hodne Titlestad olati@ifi.uio.no wrote:

Supporting Jim’s suggestion on a system/implementation setting to configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility of overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default value for this system setting should be…

Ola



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On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace jim@dhis2.org wrote:

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Prosper BT ptb3000@gmail.com wrote:

I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

Lars Helge Øverland

Lead developer, DHIS 2

University of Oslo

Skype: larshelgeoverland

lars@dhis2.org

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Why not use https://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/i18n/format/numberFormat.html where the default format depends on user/setup locale?

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2016-05-03 21:34 GMT+02:00 Bob Jolliffe bobjolliffe@gmail.com:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Digit_grouping

seems to support Jim’s suggestion of space as default.

On 3 May 2016 at 21:32, Ola Hodne Titlestad olati@ifi.uio.no wrote:

Supporting Jim’s suggestion on a system/implementation setting to configure a default system-wide separator in addition to the possibility of overriding this for each pivot table or other type of report with display options. I guess the result of the vote could still be what the default value for this system setting should be…

Ola



Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr)
HISP
Department of Informatics
University of Oslo

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On 3 May 2016 at 21:12, Jim Grace jim@dhis2.org wrote:

To me the most important way to address this is to allow an implementation-wide default. The space character is in many ways the “correct” separator according to international norms, and is even making inroads into countries such as the US that traditionally use the comma. I think the space is probably the best “factory” default for DHIS 2, so that large numbers are readable on demonstration systems, and so we follow international and emerging standards.

However, an implementation should be able to override this with an implementation-wide default of comma, where a preponderance of users for that implementation are more used to this, and/or where exporting to Excel is a concern.

Expecting users to override the default every time they create a pivot table is not very user-friendly.

On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Prosper BT ptb3000@gmail.com wrote:

I vote for having none as default (1432) then one can choose what they want in options


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On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Lars Helge Øverland lars@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi there,

we are getting many (conflicting) requests for what the default value should be for the “digit group separator” in the pivot table app.

So lets decide with a poll… Cast your vote here before Friday 6th!

http://doodle.com/poll/vtyzgts226aqihev

The digit group separator controls how large numbers are being split up, e.g.

1 432

1,432

1432

The digit group separator can be controlled from Options.

regards,

Lars

Lars Helge Øverland

Lead developer, DHIS 2

University of Oslo

Skype: larshelgeoverland

lars@dhis2.org

http://www.dhis2.org


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