data element available for org.unit but without data entry by org.unit

Hi

How would I tackle this:

The lowest hierarchy (the hospitals) should enter data **X** (a data element). It is then

calculated to an indicator (X/Y) with another data element Y , which also belongs to their
organization unit, but they can and should not enter data
element Y on
their own. This data element should be available “like a
constant” and just changed upon when it is necessary by an user
(not of this org.unit) with specific rights to do so.

More specific explanation:

Data X = number of products a machine produces in this org.unit

Data Y = number of available machines in this org.unit

Thanks for your help.
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David,

You can allocate Data element Y to a different dataset allocated to a different user for capturing. The indicator can use numerator and denominator from different datasets. You will have to pay attention to the period of the other dataset though as their is no on change period in dhis2 so you could allow future periods and pre-entry the data upfront.

Regards

Elmarie

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On 28 Jul 2015 4:32 PM, “David Huser” david.huser@swisstph.org wrote:

Hi

How would I tackle this:

The lowest hierarchy (the hospitals) should enter data **X** (a data element). It is then calculated to an indicator (**X**/**Y**) with another data element **Y**    , which also belongs to their organization unit, but **they can and should not**     enter data element **Y** on their own. This data element should be available "like a constant" and just changed upon when it is necessary by an user (not of this org.unit) with specific rights to do so.



More specific explanation:

Data X = number of products a machine produces in this org.unit

Data Y = number of available machines in this org.unit



Thanks for your help.

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Thanks for the quick response. Which setting did I miss? The data set (in data entry) is visible, but all input fields are greyed out.

I created a user role, assigned the dataset with Y in it, assigned all authorities; created a user, assigned the user role and tried to log in.

Could you elaborate on the second part of your answer? I don't think I understand on what I have to pay attention exactly.

Best regards

David
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On 28.07.2015 16:42, Elmarie Claasen wrote:

David,

    You can allocate Data element Y to a different dataset allocated to a different user for capturing. The indicator can use numerator and denominator from different datasets. You will have to pay attention to the period of the other dataset though as their is no on change period in dhis2 so you could allow future periods and pre-entry the data upfront.

Regards

Elmarie

    On 28 Jul 2015 4:32 PM, "David Huser" <david.huser@swisstph.org        > wrote:

Hi

        How would I tackle this:

        The lowest hierarchy (the hospitals) should enter data **X** (a data element). It is then calculated to an indicator (**X**/**Y**            ) with another data element **Y**            , which also belongs to their organization unit, but **they can and should not**             enter data element **Y** on their own. This data element should be available "like a constant" and just changed upon when it is necessary by an user (not of this org.unit) with specific rights to do so.



        More specific explanation:

        Data X = number of products a machine produces in this org.unit

        Data Y = number of available machines in this org.unit



        Thanks for your help.

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Dear all

What is the best way to create indicators with data elements with different collection periods? dataset1 is collected monthly and the values of dataset2 should be "changed  upon request", so since this is not possible out-of-the-box -> period == yearly?

It would be really cumbersome to collect both datasets monthly (since the values of dataset2 changes e.g. every two years for an org unit).

What could I adjust with *      Frequency, expiry days, open future periods* or *      days after period to qualify for timely submission* ?

Thanks for your help.

For reference from an earlier question, which I couldn't understand fully.
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