Thanks Jason for your elaborate response.
Please how can i achieve a predefined type for data element? I need the following Date, predefined as pointed out by kumar in addtion to the Yes/No,Number and Text.
I appreciate your urgent response to this.
Thanks
.damilola
GMD
On Wed 31/03/10 12:52 PM , Jason Pickering jason.p.pickering@gmail.com sent:
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Hi there. I have come up against a similar issue in Tajkistan, where there is a need to record primary and final diagnosis for a patient. I must admit, that I do not feel DHIS2 is the correct tool for this. Ideally, there would be a single data element for each, and a dropdown list of pre-defined diagnosis codes. In this case, they are using ICD-10 codes, which presents a major challenge for a single dropdown list, as there could be thousands.
I personally have my reservations about using the named-based records module, as it stands, for this situation at this point. I think it will work well for pre-defined programs.We have had discussions here in Zambia with a major NGO on the use of DHIS2 for the male circumcision program. In this case, I think it works pretty well, as you know what the data elements are, and the mapping between cased based data and aggregate level data is pretty straightforward. Ideally, you would like to have a single data element in the patient based module, which would then map to some aggregate data element, rather than having 10,000 different data elements for each ICD10 code, in the form of a yes-no box. For instance, the ICD-10 codes for TB occupy the range between A15-A19. There are numerous sub-codes as well. Typically, all of these might get mapped to a single aggregate data element, for instance (“Number of cases of tuberculosis”) and be of course disaggregated by other dimensions such as age, gender, etc. As far tell, the current functionality of the named-based records in DHIS will not easily support this workflow. Perhaps Bharath could comment on how it could be done. This sounds like a similar problem you are experiencing.
Anyway, our plan in Tajikistan is to keep the existing patient based system, which is essentially an electronic medical records system, and have it aggregate the data into aggregate data elements, which will then be passed upwards from facility to district level. This ensures that any confidential patient data stays in the facility.
Not sure if this helps, but I just wanted to highlight what I feel are some of the current limitations of the named- based records system. This may be based on my limited understanding of it however, which hopefully the documentation will clear up.
Best regards,
Jason
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:31 PM, damilola@centrifugegroup.org wrote:
Thanks Kumar…i must have been missing stuffs out then…but i checked again and i couldnt see more than Number/Text/Yes*No/Date
for the patientAttribute. I cant see the predefined and others you mentioned. Its possible i m not patient please can you point me to
it???
I tried changing the dataDictionary setting to “extended” and the listItem is still Number/Text/Yes*No.
Do you have an instruction on how to CustomScreenDesign with Javascript?..however small it is i appreciate.
Thanks kumar…waiting.
.damilola
GMD
On Wed 31/03/10 12:11 PM , bharath kumar chbharathk@gmail.com sent:
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 4:32 PM, wrote:
Thanks Jas for the astute insight.
This is what i am trying to do…see the screens attached.
I have tried to use the patient management as shown below. These are
my challenges
1.There are quite a number of option items on the form. I know DHIS2
has Yes/No but not custom listItem.
I am not sure i understood correct, but for PatientAttribute can be
Number/Date/Text/Bool/Predifined.
Here Predefined means dropdownlist with user defined options, for
ex:- Say Sex is attribute and Male,Female are options.
Similarly for DataElements also we can create Multi-Dimensional Text
Dataelement with user defined options.
2.There are no action attached to yes or no. like i need to
display some form fields/controls if i select yes or no. I know this
involves real programming.
May be this can be done using CustomScreenDesign with Javascript
Methods
3.I need to aggregate the register into the summary form.
Whats your advise on these???
.damilola
On Tue 30/03/10 7:26 PM , Jason Pickering sent:
Just a note of caution here. It is not so straightforward as a
simple
count aggregation (although I have written a blueprint for a count
aggregator in the normal datamart operation as well). In some
cases,
it may be a combination of a count and a sum. For instance, you
may
have multiple patient level data elements that map into a single
aggregate level data element (consider TB ICD 10 codes for example
which might map into a single aggregate level data element of
"Number
of TB cases").
I think they are working on it, and I will help Bharath with the
documentation as well, so hopefully we will have something quite
soon.
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:50 PM, wrote:
Thanks! Great job Kumar! Is the AggregationEngine in 2.0.3 or the
2.0.4RC??? i need the count(DE) for aggregator operator. I am sure
i
saw it somewhere but cant remember where. is it something you can
help figure out???
.damilola
GMD
On Tue 30/03/10 5:57 PM , bharath kumar sent:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:26 PM, wrote:
Dear Team,
I have the following concerns.
- I need to develop a custom data entry form from a register
having
patient detail like patient’s name, patient’s address,
etc
At this moment there is no CustomDataEntryForm Design for
Patient
Registration. You can design custom screen for
Program/ProgramStages.
- I need dhis2 to aggregate these patients counts into a
summary
form which will be aggregate up the hierarchy.
Very Basic AggregationEngine is developed but need lot more work
left. Will try to prepare some documentation with screenshots
how
to
use aggregation engine, will send.
- Why don’t we have count in the list of the aggregation
operator. I have Sum, Average
- Can i use custom data entry page to create a register
records?
I have tried the following
- Created the custom form using the data entry create form
wizard.
Its not just realistic here. Foreach patient’s attributes i
will
have a data element and depending on the number of patients, it
will
be a multiple of the available attributes which will run into
millions of DE and its not just manageable. I know the the above
is
used to create summary forms.
- So i decided to use the patient’s management modules,
EVEN
though i cannot achieve a custom layout as it appears on the
form,
i
could use the additional attributes to create more patients
attributes.
So then
- How do i do a count of the information on the register and
get
it
appear in the cell of a custom data entry without the user
manually entering the values over a period.
For example on my register i have columns like 1. Name of
client,address of client,fever cases reported within 24hrs,RDT
done
under
five.
On my summary form i need the following to be auto calculate
- The number of client registered
- Number reported for fever cases under five
- etc
I will appreciate any assistance asap.
Thank you.
.damilola
GMD
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