Any experience of DHIS2 in Agriculture?

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.

···

Thank you,
Abyot.

Hi Abyot

I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements.

At present, I with my team are particularly working on Results Framework which has logical framework having goals, outcome, outputs , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and we were successsfulyl able to monitor project’s results framework.But over time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate because results framework doesn’t just have a list of indicators but the logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in overall project monitoring.

Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling this module as Project management module.

I hope, this info is of some use

Thank you

Deepali

···

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you,
Abyot.


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Hi Depali,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community?

  2. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community?

···

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Abyot

I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements.

At present, I with my team are particularly working on Results Framework which has logical framework having goals, outcome, outputs , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and we were successsfulyl able to monitor project’s results framework.But over time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate because results framework doesn’t just have a list of indicators but the logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in overall project monitoring.

Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling this module as Project management module.

I hope, this info is of some use

Thank you

Deepali


Thank you,
Abyot.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you,
Abyot.


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Hi Deepali,

that sounds very interesting. Are you allowed to share a bit more detail, e.g. in which country this is, is it government or private?

regards,

Lars

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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi Depali,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community?
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community?

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Thank you,
Abyot.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Abyot

I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements.

At present, I with my team are particularly working on Results Framework which has logical framework having goals, outcome, outputs , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and we were successsfulyl able to monitor project’s results framework.But over time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate because results framework doesn’t just have a list of indicators but the logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in overall project monitoring.

Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling this module as Project management module.

I hope, this info is of some use

Thank you

Deepali

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you,
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Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community? I would say it will be challenging, because typically Results framework can have multiple levels and typically are flexible in design unless the user is deciding on a fixed format… We actually faced issues with this, some of them given below:
  • Project was created as “Org unit group” >> this led to projects list show up in pivot table and other places within org unit.
  • Outcomes and objectives which are levels of the results framework and have group of indicators under them were made as Data indicator groups. Again these started showing up in pivot tables etc.
  • Major issue was, one indicator can be mapped to multiple projects. For example, Number of consultations provided is an indicator under all projects. Therefore, one indicator has multiple targets, baselines, source of verification etc (for different projects).Creating new indicator for each new project was a complete no-no for us.
  • Handling targets was difficult because, target for a certain indicator and certain project is valid for the project lifetime. Now, projects can have any start and end dates, therefore, target datasets had to me made monthly.
  • generating a valid logframe report, when different indicators belonged to different org unit. We had logframe where different levels belonged to different org units. for example, Objective A is for Org unit A, and Objectve B is for org unit 2.Here, the user had no options other than choosing the right org unit from a selection window, again and again for different indicators.
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community? I am not sure at this moment, but ours is very specific to our needs and is not generic.
···

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi Depali,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community?
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community?

Thank you,
Abyot.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Abyot

I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements.

At present, I with my team are particularly working on Results Framework which has logical framework having goals, outcome, outputs , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and we were successsfulyl able to monitor project’s results framework.But over time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate because results framework doesn’t just have a list of indicators but the logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in overall project monitoring.

Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling this module as Project management module.

I hope, this info is of some use

Thank you

Deepali

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you,
Abyot.


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Dear Dipali,

Thanks for sharing.It looks like you tried out the Aggregate module, did you attempt to see if the tracker could do this? If a project is seen as a program, then you track it, just thinking…

Alex

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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community? I would say it will be challenging, because typically Results framework can have multiple levels and typically are flexible in design unless the user is deciding on a fixed format… We actually faced issues with this, some of them given below:
  • Project was created as “Org unit group” >> this led to projects list show up in pivot table and other places within org unit.
  • Outcomes and objectives which are levels of the results framework and have group of indicators under them were made as Data indicator groups. Again these started showing up in pivot tables etc.
  • Major issue was, one indicator can be mapped to multiple projects. For example, Number of consultations provided is an indicator under all projects. Therefore, one indicator has multiple targets, baselines, source of verification etc (for different projects).Creating new indicator for each new project was a complete no-no for us.
  • Handling targets was difficult because, target for a certain indicator and certain project is valid for the project lifetime. Now, projects can have any start and end dates, therefore, target datasets had to me made monthly.
  • generating a valid logframe report, when different indicators belonged to different org unit. We had logframe where different levels belonged to different org units. for example, Objective A is for Org unit A, and Objectve B is for org unit 2.Here, the user had no options other than choosing the right org unit from a selection window, again and again for different indicators.
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community? I am not sure at this moment, but ours is very specific to our needs and is not generic.

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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi Depali,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community?
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community?

Thank you,
Abyot.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Abyot

I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements.

At present, I with my team are particularly working on Results Framework which has logical framework having goals, outcome, outputs , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and we were successsfulyl able to monitor project’s results framework.But over time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate because results framework doesn’t just have a list of indicators but the logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in overall project monitoring.

Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling this module as Project management module.

I hope, this info is of some use

Thank you

Deepali

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you,
Abyot.


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Technical Advisor - DHIS2 (Consultant),
Ministry of Health/AFENET

Kampala

Uganda
+256 774149 775, + 256 759 800161

Skype ID: talexie

IT Consultant (Servers, Networks and Security, Health Information Systems - DHIS2, Disease Outbreak & Surveillance Systems) & Solar Consultant

"I don’t want to be anything other than what I have been - one tree hill "

Hi Alex

We did consider using the Tracker. I am sure there must be a way, 2 important challenges we faced were:

  • We can set up a project as a program in Tracker. But, how do we get the levels in the results framework, for example a project logframe has Goal, Each goal can have multiple objectives under it, and each Objective can have multiple outcomes, Outcome can have multiple outputs and Output can have multiple indicators. Logframe structure is flexible and different for different donor/project.
  • Calculating achievement, where achievement= indicator value/Target *100. We made targets as datasets. There fore, if we use tracker, the numerator can come from Program indicator but denominator is in Aggregated part (in datasets).
    Thank you

Deepali

International Medical Corps

···

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Alex Tumwesigye atumwesigye@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Dipali,

Thanks for sharing.It looks like you tried out the Aggregate module, did you attempt to see if the tracker could do this? If a project is seen as a program, then you track it, just thinking…

Alex

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community? I would say it will be challenging, because typically Results framework can have multiple levels and typically are flexible in design unless the user is deciding on a fixed format… We actually faced issues with this, some of them given below:
  • Project was created as “Org unit group” >> this led to projects list show up in pivot table and other places within org unit.
  • Outcomes and objectives which are levels of the results framework and have group of indicators under them were made as Data indicator groups. Again these started showing up in pivot tables etc.
  • Major issue was, one indicator can be mapped to multiple projects. For example, Number of consultations provided is an indicator under all projects. Therefore, one indicator has multiple targets, baselines, source of verification etc (for different projects).Creating new indicator for each new project was a complete no-no for us.
  • Handling targets was difficult because, target for a certain indicator and certain project is valid for the project lifetime. Now, projects can have any start and end dates, therefore, target datasets had to me made monthly.
  • generating a valid logframe report, when different indicators belonged to different org unit. We had logframe where different levels belonged to different org units. for example, Objective A is for Org unit A, and Objectve B is for org unit 2.Here, the user had no options other than choosing the right org unit from a selection window, again and again for different indicators.
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community? I am not sure at this moment, but ours is very specific to our needs and is not generic.

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Ministry of Health/AFENET

Kampala

Uganda
+256 774149 775, + 256 759 800161

Skype ID: talexie

IT Consultant (Servers, Networks and Security, Health Information Systems - DHIS2, Disease Outbreak & Surveillance Systems) & Solar Consultant

"I don’t want to be anything other than what I have been - one tree hill "

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi Depali,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community?
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community?

Thank you,
Abyot.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Abyot

I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements.

At present, I with my team are particularly working on Results Framework which has logical framework having goals, outcome, outputs , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and we were successsfulyl able to monitor project’s results framework.But over time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate because results framework doesn’t just have a list of indicators but the logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in overall project monitoring.

Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling this module as Project management module.

I hope, this info is of some use

Thank you

Deepali

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


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Dear Deepali,

Thanks. Now I see the complexity. Even if you used relationship in programs e.g program is related to a goal, a goal program is related objectives and objective program is related to outcome and so on would be complex to implement.

However, I had tried to use this relationship thing in programs for tracking projects where a project has consultants and consultants have tasks and tasks have resources attached to them … but I didnt finish with since it was a concept for demonstrating a use case. May be I should touch base on it and we share experiences.

Alex

···

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Alex

We did consider using the Tracker. I am sure there must be a way, 2 important challenges we faced were:

  • We can set up a project as a program in Tracker. But, how do we get the levels in the results framework, for example a project logframe has Goal, Each goal can have multiple objectives under it, and each Objective can have multiple outcomes, Outcome can have multiple outputs and Output can have multiple indicators. Logframe structure is flexible and different for different donor/project.
  • Calculating achievement, where achievement= indicator value/Target *100. We made targets as datasets. There fore, if we use tracker, the numerator can come from Program indicator but denominator is in Aggregated part (in datasets).
    Thank you

Deepali

International Medical Corps

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 9:33 PM, Alex Tumwesigye atumwesigye@gmail.com wrote:

Dear Dipali,

Thanks for sharing.It looks like you tried out the Aggregate module, did you attempt to see if the tracker could do this? If a project is seen as a program, then you track it, just thinking…

Alex

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community? I would say it will be challenging, because typically Results framework can have multiple levels and typically are flexible in design unless the user is deciding on a fixed format… We actually faced issues with this, some of them given below:
  • Project was created as “Org unit group” >> this led to projects list show up in pivot table and other places within org unit.
  • Outcomes and objectives which are levels of the results framework and have group of indicators under them were made as Data indicator groups. Again these started showing up in pivot tables etc.
  • Major issue was, one indicator can be mapped to multiple projects. For example, Number of consultations provided is an indicator under all projects. Therefore, one indicator has multiple targets, baselines, source of verification etc (for different projects).Creating new indicator for each new project was a complete no-no for us.
  • Handling targets was difficult because, target for a certain indicator and certain project is valid for the project lifetime. Now, projects can have any start and end dates, therefore, target datasets had to me made monthly.
  • generating a valid logframe report, when different indicators belonged to different org unit. We had logframe where different levels belonged to different org units. for example, Objective A is for Org unit A, and Objectve B is for org unit 2.Here, the user had no options other than choosing the right org unit from a selection window, again and again for different indicators.
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community? I am not sure at this moment, but ours is very specific to our needs and is not generic.

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Uganda
+256 774149 775, + 256 759 800161

Skype ID: talexie

IT Consultant (Servers, Networks and Security, Health Information Systems - DHIS2, Disease Outbreak & Surveillance Systems) & Solar Consultant

"I don’t want to be anything other than what I have been - one tree hill "

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Hi Depali,

Thank you for sharing your experience.

Two questions:

  1. If one is to take a simplified view and prefer to implement the thing through meta-data definition, how would you advise the community?
  1. If the app you are is in some sort of working state, is is something that you could share to the community?

Thank you,
Abyot.

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Dipali Sahu dipali.sahu@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Abyot

I had worked with DHIS2 in the Agriculture sector. I would say more or less , with customization we could fulfill the requirements.

At present, I with my team are particularly working on Results Framework which has logical framework having goals, outcome, outputs , indicators etc. We tried to build the module within DHIS in phase 1 and we were successsfulyl able to monitor project’s results framework.But over time, the requirements came out to be really complicated and elaborate because results framework doesn’t just have a list of indicators but the logical relationship between various level of the logframe helping in overall project monitoring.

Therefore, now we are building the module outside DHIS where we are developing a project logframe structure page (we are calling this as Project Management app) which can call indicator values from DHIS. Each indicator has a few attributes like type; baseline value, source of verification etc. Similarly project has attributes like start & end dates, donor, area of operation, total budget, sub-grants etc. We are calling this module as Project management module.

I hope, this info is of some use

Thank you

Deepali

On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 7:24 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you,
Abyot.


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Ministry of Health/AFENET

Kampala

Uganda
+256 774149 775, + 256 759 800161

Skype ID: talexie

IT Consultant (Servers, Networks and Security, Health Information Systems - DHIS2, Disease Outbreak & Surveillance Systems) & Solar Consultant

"I don’t want to be anything other than what I have been - one tree hill "

Hi Abyot,

I was involved in a project using event capture for forestry. I think it went well, but there were some challenges, mostly related to custom aggregation of certain data elements, which was solved through SQL scripts.

DHIS2 has also been used in food security, which is probably quite close to agriculture, but again, the challenge there was how certain data elements get aggregated. DHIS2 does not implement “last observed value” which was needed in the case of food security (and other sectors).

In general, things worked well for data entry, but it could be a bit more complex to get the analytics part right.

Regards,

Jason

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On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Abyot Asalefew Gizaw abyot@dhis2.org wrote:

Dear All,

Any experience that you can share about the use of DHIS2 in Agriculture sector?

Someone is interested in using DHIS2 as a management information system for Ministry of Agriculture. A particular use case they are interested is in using DHIS2 in the area of results framework that deal with indicators of impacts, outcomes and outputs as used in log frame analysis.

Thank you for sharing.


Thank you,
Abyot.


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